Look - I'm gay and have seen hundreds of penises. This nonsense about the average dick size being 5.1 inches is just meant to make guys feel better about their own dicks. I can affirmatively say that the average is definitely over 6 inches and there are quite a few 7, 8 and even 9 inchers out there. These stats that say 7 inches is bigger than 99% of guys are just WRONG. I've probably only seen one or maybe two dicks as small as 5.1 inches in all my years. Curious what your experiences have been.
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I think you’re just lucky. Of the dozen or so guys I’ve jacked off with they’ve all been smaller than me (7”) except for one.
There are probably two factors at play here:
!) Sampling error. I played football in high school and college. My high school team tended toward average or slightly-below average. Yes, there were a few on the large side, but not that many or that big. Occasionally, the swimming team would have to shower with us. They were, on average, noticeably bigger and tended to be on average to above-average side. Fewer on the small side, more on the big side. It was noticeable; there were a few jokes made about the fact. The same was true of the guys on my college football team. They tended towards the larger side of things, including a few absolute porn-size monsters.
It's that we're dealing with a small population here. The guys on the college team across town might just as easily have been hung like my high school team. When you're dealing with thousands, evenmillions, the variations in size even out.
2) Bias. Guess what? Many gays tend to be size conscious (if not size queens). Many smaller-hung guys may stay home. Or some may sense another's a size queen and steer clear of him. I used to go occasionally with two friends to gay bars. Even with my limited experience and interest), I could often pick up what many guys were interested in. There were often verbal and visual clues. Or some guys' blatant display of their large size may have intimidated them. I'm good-looking but hung like a chipmunk and was sensitive to these things.
The studies you cited which show cocks in the mid-to-lower five-inch range dealt with much larger sample sizes, and were screened to be representative of the larger population. You obviously didn't do the latter, although you may have attempted the former.
!) Sampling error. I played football in high school and college. My high school team tended toward average or slightly-below average. Yes, there were a few on the large side, but not that many or that big. Occasionally, the swimming team would have to shower with us. They were, on average, noticeably bigger and tended to be on average to above-average side. Fewer on the small side, more on the big side. It was noticeable; there were a few jokes made about the fact. The same was true of the guys on my college football team. They tended towards the larger side of things, including a few absolute porn-size monsters.
It's that we're dealing with a small population here. The guys on the college team across town might just as easily have been hung like my high school team. When you're dealing with thousands, evenmillions, the variations in size even out.
2) Bias. Guess what? Many gays tend to be size conscious (if not size queens). Many smaller-hung guys may stay home. Or some may sense another's a size queen and steer clear of him. I used to go occasionally with two friends to gay bars. Even with my limited experience and interest), I could often pick up what many guys were interested in. There were often verbal and visual clues. Or some guys' blatant display of their large size may have intimidated them. I'm good-looking but hung like a chipmunk and was sensitive to these things.
The studies you cited which show cocks in the mid-to-lower five-inch range dealt with much larger sample sizes, and were screened to be representative of the larger population. You obviously didn't do the latter, although you may have attempted the former.
I'm 1.1" smaller. And, according to your measuring pics, you're about 0.5" smaller yourself. We just weren't in your sample. As AMTZ410213 said, "You're just lucky."
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@cockboiii I agree...
I'm straight but I see many naked guys in many occasions. Both soft and hard.
I always feel shorter, especially when I'm with younger guys. Maybe new generations are longer.
I'm very thick so few are thicker than me but in our society big means long, not thick.
In every country there is an average size. It's not universal...
I really would know and meet more average guys...
I'm straight but I see many naked guys in many occasions. Both soft and hard.
I always feel shorter, especially when I'm with younger guys. Maybe new generations are longer.
I'm very thick so few are thicker than me but in our society big means long, not thick.
In every country there is an average size. It's not universal...
I really would know and meet more average guys...
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I never considered myself to have a big cock, over the years I have checked out porn and think of myself as average, but I recently started to visit a bathhouse were guys are naked with erections and to my surprise I am actually very big! in fact I would say from my first hand experience in the real world that there are two things that I believe to be true
1. Porn stars are the very top of the size range most being 7 inches or more and
2. Most guys who post their pics are in the porn star range and do it to show off.
The real average guys are in the 4 to 6 inch range and most I've encountered are 5 inch or less they don't typically post pictures, so you really get a skewed impression of size.
I'm 7.75 long and 5.9 mid girth, I agree with the studies that I am about 1 in 1000
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I never considered myself to have a big cock, over the years I have checked out porn and think of myself as average, but I recently started to visit a bathhouse were guys are naked with erections and to my surprise I am actually very big! in fact I would say from my first hand experience in the real world that there are two things that I believe to be true
1. Porn stars are the very top of the size range most being 7 inches or more and
2. Most guys who post their pics are in the porn star range and do it to show off.
The real average guys are in the 4 to 6 inch range and most I've encountered are 5 inch or less they don't typically post pictures, so you really get a skewed impression of size.
I'm 7.75 long and 5.9 mid girth, I agree with the studies that I am about 1 in 1000
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I would have to agree with the original posters analysis. I'm gay and have been with dozens and dozens of men and I would say over 90% of them have been over 7". I'm usually always the smaller of the two and I'm an honest 6".
So your sample size of several hundred only/mostly/predominantly gay men in one corner of the world, of whom you didn't actually measure, is more accurate than a sample size of 15,000 men from around the globe, of varied backgrounds, who actually were measured.
Sounds reasonable.
Of what I've read online, they say that the average cock size is 5 to 6 inches in length and 4 to 5 inches in girth.
What everyone should be talking about is the mean penis size. Averages are garbage. #math
Look - I'm gay and have seen hundreds of penises. This nonsense about the average dick size being 5.1 inches is just meant to make guys feel worse about their own dicks. I can affirmatively say that the average is definitely under 5 inches and there are quite a few 3, 2 and even 1 inchers out there. These stats that say 1 inch is smaller than 99% of guys are just WRONG. I've probably only seen one or maybe two dicks as big as 5.1 inches in all my years. Curious what your experiences have been.
To actually answer the topic, cockboii, are you a top? If not I assume it's because you think you are too small. I'd imagine other gay men may have the same thought and regulate themselves as a bottom. If you are a bottom, you wont see those same smaller sized men. Also, if self conscious about your size, you may be more prone to staying in and not putting yourself out there because of porn expectations to be a hung top, therefor you never meet the smaller more average sized men.
BUT, we all know you live for sph and just won't listen to reason, you've been here doing it for years...
To actually answer the topic, cockboii, are you a top? If not I assume it's because you think you are too small. I'd imagine other gay men may have the same thought and regulate themselves as a bottom. If you are a bottom, you wont see those same smaller sized men. Also, if self conscious about your size, you may be more prone to staying in and not putting yourself out there because of porn expectations to be a hung top, therefor you never meet the smaller more average sized men.
BUT, we all know you live for sph and just won't listen to reason, you've been here doing it for years...
bigmatt1983
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Did you actually measure them all, guys tend to add an inch or two to any "eyeballed" measurement, and did you ever think maybe the smaller guys didnt fuck you?
I didn't take into account that @cockboiii might suffer from the same thing most women do. . . the inability to estimate the size of a guy's cock. Most women are terrible at that. They way overestimate a guy's size.
Maybe Cockboiii has a feminine side to him. We must send him to Remedial Cock Size Estimating 101. Like most women, he thinks 4" is 6" because that's what guys tell him. He also probably believes the size guys give out in porn. He doesn't understand what camera angles can do. . . or recognize out-and-out lying.
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The mean is the average. Do you mean median?
What everyone should be talking about is the standard deviation, and what falls in the range of one standard deviation.
So the wife and I were talking last night about porn star exaggerated sizes. 9” came up and she reached over and grabbed her tailor’s tape (she quilts and has needles and what not on the end table). She holds out 9 inches, and says “oh, I don’t know...” as if it could be relatively common. I told her it’s in the range of possible, but so improbable that it’s basically a unicorn.
I took the tape, held it at the 1” and 10” mark and told her to start measuring it by hand widths. Grab the tape next to one of my thumb marks and work your way to the other. When she hit the second hand width and saw she still had another one to go, she said “You’re right. That’s a unicorn”.
In under a minute, she realized her visual estimation wasn’t accurate.
Can’t edit my earlier reply, but using calcSD’s updated “Western Average” data sets, you get:
Bone pressed:
Mean: 5.67”
Std Dev: .75”
So 4.92” - 6.42” is the range of “average”
Non bone pressed is:
Mean: 4.81”
Std Dev: .80”
Average range: 4.01” - 5.61”
Girth is the same for both sets:
Mean: 4.58”
Std Dev: .59”
Average range 3.99” - 5.17”
Bone pressed:
Mean: 5.67”
Std Dev: .75”
So 4.92” - 6.42” is the range of “average”
Non bone pressed is:
Mean: 4.81”
Std Dev: .80”
Average range: 4.01” - 5.61”
Girth is the same for both sets:
Mean: 4.58”
Std Dev: .59”
Average range 3.99” - 5.17”
Average has to be much smaller than what people think. My wife swore I was over 8”. So I measured it for her. She was shocked learn I am a little over 7” on a good day.
I'm inclined to disagree about a "most women" and make that "most people". Most people are not very good at estimating size. The exception is people who regularly measure things...in a job or hobby. But even then, seeing an erect penis directly is a relatively rare thing unless one is a sex worker, so that becomes a factor too.
Regarding the OP, post history tells the story.
Have a look at the BJUI meta-analysis. They took studies from around the world, only used those with methodolgy that was consistent and logical, and have probably the largest sample group available.
Ignore the bad label, the link is good:
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