what evidence do you expect them to come up with? videos of it happening??? they have photos and texts with him proving they know him. if this was a lie there wouldn’t be so many people coming forward. yall are just bending over backwards to make excuses for him
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There's no need for excuses. Knowing someone doesn't equate to... anything, honestly.
That's the big thing. I don't mind offering grace and understanding to people who make allegations. But I can't in good conscience agree with going after people when there's no evidence. The law (however ineffectual it may be) must be involved.
I get that's why sexual assault / r*pe allegations are so difficult to deal with, but that doesn't mean we can go after people without evidence.
Social media mobs go both ways, social media fall out often dissuades victims from coming forward.
We should never encourage or defend social media mob mentality, it's scary, dangerous and is genuinely ruining our society.
However, as a survivor myself who is constantly being pressured by my therapist to press charges, no matter how understanding and kind the police are it's incredibly difficult to take abusers to court and unpopular opinion despite living with the trauma of it myself, it's a good thing that it's hard, the burden of proof needs to be high. It's better to let ten guilty men go free than let one innocent man go to jail.
While I don't know a lot about this case, I think we need to learn balance. I think it's possible to listen and support victims of abuse while also believing that an accused person is innocent until proven guilty. I think most of us get this nuance in this thread tbh from what I've read and noone here is defending social media mobs
We should never encourage or defend social media mob mentality, it's scary, dangerous and is genuinely ruining our society.
However, as a survivor myself who is constantly being pressured by my therapist to press charges, no matter how understanding and kind the police are it's incredibly difficult to take abusers to court and unpopular opinion despite living with the trauma of it myself, it's a good thing that it's hard, the burden of proof needs to be high. It's better to let ten guilty men go free than let one innocent man go to jail.
While I don't know a lot about this case, I think we need to learn balance. I think it's possible to listen and support victims of abuse while also believing that an accused person is innocent until proven guilty. I think most of us get this nuance in this thread tbh from what I've read and noone here is defending social media mobs
Sorry you experienced that, but glad you’ve been getting help and have come out the other end of the tunnel stronger.
this!!! i’m not sure why the apologists are so sold on this evidence argument. what evidence would even please them? the victims have said their testimonies and provided evidence that they knew him. common sense tells you that if multiple people are coming forward that the allegations are clearly not baseless. a lot of the gross misogynistic tweets he’s tweeted/liked show me the type of person he is and that he’s not worth supporting regardless.
If he was aware of them being under age than he should be charged & locked up, but if they lied & he didn't know seeing nobody is carded or shows their birth certificate who's to actually know. Older look young. Young look older
That's the thing with the lewds. Even though we have the images, there's no confirmation that they were sent to a minor.
Years ago a youtuber called ProJared was accused of sending nudes to minors among other things. When he finally responded to the accusations, he provided proof that he asked if they were of age beforehand and that there was no coercion involved.
I'm not saying the accusers are lying. I'm cautiously sitting on the fence here. As time goes on we will get more information which could be 100% undeniable proof, but it's important to consider how delicate an issue like this is.
again what evidence do you expect them to come up with?
there’s multiple witnesses and people saying these things happened. come off it
thats not all he is being accused off though. the main thing he’s been accused of is getting younger girls black out drunk to have sex with them from multiple sources
The fact that some of y'all are defending the guy who follows a white supremacist and frequently likes that content is wild
Does he have any nudes?
Totally agree. Don't even get me started on the Ezra Miller thread...
The page is private now but the account name was like dieamerica or something like that. Some of his following list that wasn't like other celebrities is very questionable
The courts wanted it public not him and he won off the evidence and her lies. Please don't spread misinfo
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He didn't win.
And one of them behaved like a traumatized adult while the other played with candy and toys like a bored toddler. Except he was the significantly older one.
