Exactly.
If she were white in the same situation, same place, it wouldn't happen.
If she were black in the same situation, any place I've been except Africa, it wouldn't happen.

Yes, but who are these people that are suggesting she is out of her place? Are they not in the same place, same position as her?

And consequently, where is knowledge there is ignorance, because ignorance is relative term as well, isn't it :)
Maybe we should generalize and say where are differences, and they are everywhere, there is intolerance - then intolerance should be anywhere.
Because like you say, if there is no other ethnicity around, shit comes down on darkest person in the village

ok, but what if she really was a prostitute minding her own business, paying for her drink and not disturbing anyone?
We all know there is no lack of them in city bars
Would you kick somebody out of your store if you (vaguely) suspect he or she is gay or wears a t-shirt you dislike?
And personally, I wouldn't assault a girl if I saw here sitting there alone one night, but if I saw her come frequently and leave with different men

Yes. We all see this exists, it is not questionable, but why?

btw Marley, maybe you should read Nj's post about controlling anger, it seems to me you are a sinner :) And you are certainly doing injustice to black ppl because reading your posts is like watching mediocre hollywood movie

Glad you found an easy solution.

For myself, I am fortunate to suffer from a very mild form. For me, avoiding stress mostly clears it up except for maybe a couple of spots on my hands.

After I figured that out, it gave me a great excuse to avoid overworking myself. :)

Good to see you posting, pup, and great to hear your self-confidence is on the rise.

I too suffer froma mild to moderate psoriasis, but of my face and scalp. Actually, mine appears to be related to a form of skin lupus (so the dermatologist said). THe way I found that out was because I one day saw a rash on my shoulder that I had never seen before. The skin was a slightly different texture, had a raised ring shape, but lacked the scale of ringworm, and was otherwise asymptomatic (no itching or burning). Anyway, He gave me a bunch of sample tubes of Protopic (tacrolimus) ointment (sorry there is no generic yet). Apparently this stuff is sometime given orally to organ transplant patients as one of the main immunosupressants to prevent rejection. As I am sure you know, psoriasis is often if not always auto-immune related. The protopic really clears my face up, and I usually only have to do one or two applications per week to keep it at bay in general.

People are different. Thats why they have all those disclaimers on medication ads. You might get headaches,dry mouth,diarreah and the next person is cured! Go figure. Look into ayervedic medicine it teaches about those differences. I am so glad you found something that works for you even though it did not work for you previuosly. Never give up it makes you strong!

Thank You so much.

Marley darling what is with you lately? I think you need to dial back your rage and righteous indignation a bit.

Debeli isn't American. His original post was not meant to be taken in the manner in which you chose to take it. IMO He is merely an outsider trying to understand what he saw as an oddity in a foreign culture.

For instance a good friend of mine was married briefly to an English woman. She was from a small town outside of Bath. She cheated on my friend, he found out and divorced her. The man she cheated with was Welsh. When a Jamaican friend who frequently visits England heard about this sad tale she said, "Eeew she dumped him for a Welshman!?!" I have often heard Brits speak with disdain of the Welsh and have never undertsood why.

Same thing here Debeli doesn't understand why one Afrikan would treat another Afrikan poorly.

"To answer your question, some blacks are racist against other blacks. You should hear the things my dad says about black people, they rival anything you'd hear at a KKK meeting."

I can't fully agree Marley's comment but I do agree to what he stated above. Many blacks carry the same views as racists whites that do nothing but destroy the mind, body, and spirit. The division between dark and lighter skinned blacks for example. Growing up I remember the view that dark children were inferior to the lighter ones. As a result, the level of praise and privilege was lower for dark children, and punishment was higher. In addition, many dark skinned black children were viewed as ugly, ignorant, and undesirable. Add that to being female. The is an old saying that stated "light is alright, brown can stick around, but black get back." I find it too funny growing up and being identified as a black but at the same time always having those around say that being black (in this case dark skinned) is a bad thing. As a result, we live in a cast system in our own race, created by another and has the potential of enslaving us all.

As for Debeli's question, she was treated that way because she was a women who to them stepped out of her place. Being a women who grew up surrounded by people of color from the US, Africa, the Caribbean and the Middle East, standards for women were and still are not equal. In short, old practices die hard. I've heard stories similar to your friend's and even worse. For example, women who are victims of sexual assault and offenders who state that the victim asked for it because she was there without a man. These women are being punished, in the offender's eyes, for daring to break the status quo. I see the person(s) who did that to your friend believed that they were teaching her a lesson. It doesn't make it right, and I wish I could give some great advice to you about how she could fix the problem. However, I would hate for her to do something that would put her life in jeopardy. In this case, she need to pick her battles wisely.

Diet is a tricky one. On the whole, I had no success with diet as a solution, except, by cutting out high sugar foods, my flares weren't as bad.

Anecdotally, high dose vitamin A, C, E, Zinc and Selenium seemed to temper my P spots but never reduced or cleared them.

On the flip side of that, alcohol and smoking DID make it worse.

As a Swedish, German, Italian, Irish, Bohemian, American I take offense to your comments.
Does that makes sense? Good; it shouldn't. Why take something personally and tell the poster to shut the F up? It doesn't make sense. Was it your best friend that was mistreated in the story? There is no need for a visceral response like that. The poster is distraught and confused. He's seeking answers and the answers for the most part are here from the ever articulate and put together NJQT.

Racism of any kind is born out of poverty and ignorance. It happens anywhere there is money or lack thereof (because anywhere there is paper money there is a lack of it) and ignorance.

I can't go to the north part of my town after dark; because it's a statistical fact I would have a good chance of being assaulted verbally, physically or shot.

I grew up next to a Native American Indian reservation. I have some great friends that are Native but I know there are groups of their friends I simply cannot associate with because they think my great grandfather's great great grandfather's farm hand took their land.

If the posters article angers you that the woman was kicked out of the bar that is normal. If the article angers you because you think the poster is racist you need to meditate and come to Jesus/Allah/One/High Self, because you have some serious imbalance.

My brother is not a mild to moderate sufferer. He is quite worse. He has found ways to control it through diet.

Not to suggest that they were right, but some people may think a woman drinking alone in a bar is a prostitute. That seems like the most likely explanation for them kicking her out.

First of all, it would serve you well to shut the fuck up about African people cuz this is an African person you're talking about. One bartender. One person. One African.

Some African people are friendly. Some are mean. Some Americans are nice. Some are mean. Some short people are niece, some are mean. Some people with hazel eyes are nice, some are mean.

Hatred, prejudice, racism reaches ALL groups, all ages, all sexes, all geographic locations.

The WORST thing you can do is go around associating someone's behavior with their race or location or anything else superficial. That makes you just as bad as the racist. In fact, it almost makes you racist to insist that Africans have some monopoly on being mean and racist. That exists in EVERY country, every group.

The world is complicated. Don't simplify it with prejudice my friend.

*rant over*

To answer your question, some blacks are racist against other blacks. You should hear the things my dad says about black people, they rival anything you'd hear at a KKK meeting.

She is black, Nigerian studying in Ghana (wow right in the bullseye with kente, nj :))
Sorry for ambiguity when I reflect my thoughts i tend to unintentionally left out stuff obvious to me

This is what puzzles me - black people treating other black people like shit in Africa... I've seen it several times myself too.
Perhaps some twisted leftover from colonial times.
Where I'm born the whole country has big touristic ambitions and I see many foreigners but there is no similar dislike among locals.

Another strong emotion I detected among Africans is envy and it is strangely mixed with lack of ambition and lazyness... maybe this partly causes bad stuff?
Hm... I hope this doesn't prevail among American africans? I'm saying this because I just thought of all the bling-bling which is the effect of envy maybe. But again I know close to nothing about life in America

I hope I didn't offend anybody, at least it's not intentionaly, I'm just streaming out my thoughts

Thanks for your vote of confidence there, NJQT, really. This is something that's been a plan of mine going on 9 yrs now. I just needed the incentive, and this piss poor bonus just capped it.

Cockoloco brings up a good point. In many countries (especially Muslim ones) a woman traveling alone is just not safe. She was lucky she was served at all nevermind being asked to leave.

I'm sure there is more to this story. Are you able to share more facts with us Debeli?

Also this brings up an excellent point which I have discussed with a select few people on this board. As a black American I know this country is not perfect. However, I have absolutely no desire to "go back to Africa" like many black Americans do because I have no desire to go to a country where I know for a fact I will be treated worse than I am here. I don't dismiss my African heritage. I just have no desire to go over there get my hair braided and wear Kente cloth and cowrie shells. I don't need that to form an identity for myself.

Hi Jason.....Read your blog each day and it just makes mine...love john

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