Obama will lose..look at the map

Wait a minute. Aren't the Republicans doing the same thing except they're doing a shit job of hiding their contempt for the guy who won their nod? Call me when McCain has something more worthwhile to say than recounting his POW experience, which, I'm sorry, doesn't make him any more qualified to run this country.

Better yet, call me when any McCain supporter can articulate the guy's political platform in a thoughtful and interesting way. Spare the talking points. We know he doesn't like Obama.

That's a shallllllllow retort, and you've over-used it.

When one news outlet says one thing, and two dozen news outlets say something different, it requires extraordinary justification to defend the one outlier. You haven't provided that, and from what I've seen, it may be beyond your means.

Popular vote don't mean much other than the media taking advantage of it to swoon their favorite candidate.

The big variable is whether or not these pollster award the true toss up states.... Virginia, Ohio, and Florida are bigguns. If Obama picks a Colorado-based VP, that state is done. If Romney is the GOP Veep... good chance there is a 24 vote swing (12 each way). It's not even August yet.

What's funny/odd is that NPR is one of the most liberal, Democrat-apologist outlets there is. They are HARDLY right leaning.

Lame... and you loose a bit of credibility here Dee. McCain of all ppl, never brings it up these days, if rarely ever.

Besides what has Barry actually done, versus what he says.

Hmmm, sorry sweetness, he's ahead by 5% when you average out all the polls, and has never been in double digits during 2008.

Of course you think it's biased, cuz it doesn't say what u wanna hear.

Exactly. Mccain's ONLY strong point is his war experience, and he can't even get his policies together. He confuses Iraq for Iran for Afghanistan, he mixes time periods up, and flip-flops on the surge as much as Obama does.

He's admitted that he doesn't understand the economy, so I guess his 4-year plan is to keep fighting a war in countries he confuses for one another, regardless of the fact that MILLIONS of dollars "disappear" between here and Iraq, and what IS accounted for has contributed to the disgusting dissipation of the middle class.

And isnt it so surprising how many people are mindless lemmings willing to continue the failed policies of one of the worst presidencies in the history of the United States just because they are afraid of change.

RealClearPolitics - Electoral Map

However, I don't see NV or NM or CO, for that matter, as toss-ups. I see those as blue. Vice versa with Indiana and Mizzou.

It's not odd in this case: NPR outsources their political polling to two other firms: Greenberg Quinlan Rosner, and Public Opinion Strategies.

Public Opinion Strategies identifies themselves as a "Republican polling firm", so you can't pin their polling results on NPR's editorial policies.

Wait, you're actually serious about that?

You don't get much more liberal than NPR.

There are a few states off on both maps...but I believe NPR is closer to the truth than RealClearPolitics. (RCP should have taken polls from Rasmussen, Quinnipiac and Survey USA from May until July and averaged them individually first, not different dates from different polls.)

If you take the NPR map and take 27 away from McCain/Republicn. You have a close race...which is what the polls say...give or take a few electoral votes for either side.

It is still a tight race and the Republicans have a better chance than most would have thought in this post Bush election.

We will hold you to that.

That map is all off. He should use toss up because "barely" and "weak" just don't cut it. Had to throw that map out.

No. Obama isn't up by 15 points.

Why is it unpleasant to discuss anything not pro-Obama? This map has just as much validity as RealClearPolitics. Why does discussion of information that is contrary to Obama go over into personal and emotional talk?

The right candidate for President sure isn't Obama. And even those who came out to cheer didn't necessarily think so. He won positivity not votes. He was a "rockstar"...an american idol with a photo op. He was not a Leader. A true Presidential leader would have visited the wounded troops.

Speaking from across the pond I very much hope that Obama does win. I don't think another 4 years of Republican government would be good either for America or the wider world.

I'll defend Dee on this one:

His POW experience is a major part of his "about" page on his campaign website. On the front page of his website, you're offered a choice of TV spots to view ("Troops" and "Love"). "Love" brings up his POW experience. Under "News and Media" is an article from this week in which surrogates of his bring up his POW status in justifying their endorsements.

He may not always speak the words himself, but his public relations team is plastering it all over his website, and getting surrogates to speak the words for him.

It is very easy to manipulate polls. They claim to be scientific but it's a bunch of crap. It ain't over until the fat lady sings.