Multiple Big Bang or single Big Bang

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Originally Posted by Northland Actually, for me it is directly related to the existence of God. If God did not exist, then God would not have in a fit of rage, tossed a planet hurtling it through several galaxies. During its travels the planet bumped into several other planets and chipped off pieces which later became known as asteroids. The asteroids in turn have been sent hither and yon and at times have slammed into existing objects-some moons, some planets. This created more debris in the air which we refer to as outer space. This debris at times enters the atmosphere of a particular planet and sometimes travels into another solar sytem. All began because one God (and for the record, I truly believe that there are many and that they all depend on each other in order for continuing survival to be), sent one planet-or possibly a moon-on a wild trajectoy in a fit of rage. How do I know God gets mad? It says so in The Bible. Now, The Bible for some is fiction; however, it should be noted that even fiction is based upon truth. Therefore, there is truth in the Biblical words: "In the beginning, God created" It doesn't say where the materials came from, now perhaps we know.

I truly hate questions like this because I honestly spend little to no time contemplating this stuff. I have to say I wonder about those of you who do think about this stuff at length. Do you work? Are you philosophy majors? Are you trust fund babys with nothing better to do with your time than contemplate the cosmos and how we got here and why? I am truly curious.

That said, it's been a while since confirmation class but I seem to recall the old testament mentioning something about God being vengeful. So maybe he did have a hissy fit throw a planet through space and voila! Bowling was invented.

I work full time everyday but still think about those topics almost every day . I only got a master degree in Economics but I think that I should study more philosophy . To me discussing that stuff is very interesting even if we never came to a conclusion .

I'm not sure what you mean by multiple big bangs. I'm guessing that the universe will collapse back down to a point and then another big bang will happen and start everything off again.

Another idea is that whenever a black hole forms it's like a big bang on the inside. So our universe is just the inside of a black hole inside some other universe. I forget the name of this theory.

Never hear of it . I have to study that idea too.

I'm not sure if it has a name, but here is a short article about it:
SPACE.com -- New Theory: Universe Was Born in a Black Hole
And a newer article that mentions it:
Black holes may harbour their own universes - space - 31 October 2007 - New Scientist Space

Yes, it`s quite obvious that there have been many big bangs. In fact I`ll be banging tonight.

I think that there's a black hole in my apartment because things keep disappearing.

I've never seen multiple big bangs, but some foods make me have series of little pops.

Work? Perish the thought! Actually, when working, mulling these matters over in my brain helps make the time pass more smoothly and quickly.

Nope-not a philosophy major, in fact, I never even took a philosophy course (the truly gifted philosophers never need sully their thought process with formal education).

Trust fund baby? Yeah, I wish I had such luck (I can't even get a date with one of them).

I too remember something about "The Lord thy God is a vengeful God" or maybe it was "a jealous God". I hadn't realized though that this was how bowling came to be. Learn something new every day.



(Oh, and about the other matter-go with Nell Carter. A clean, clear, beautiful and unique voice which was silenced far too soon.)

Our current theories of the Bog Bang have a very high likelihood of being entirely wrong.

Sure, all the evidence point to it... However... we are interpreting the evidence under the assumption that gravity and other laws of physics, as we observe them locally, operate precisely the same way throughout all observable space...


This is an assumption based upon ZERO evidence.

For example, Dark Matter... which MOST scientists speak about as if it is really out there, has ZERO actual evidence.

All the 'evidence' cosmologists point to is "circumstantial"...

Here is the truth of what we know....
Assuming that gravity operates as we theorize... then the observable universe does not contain enough matter to explain its motions.


That is all we know.

Now this could mean that there is a LOT of other matter we can't observe ( hence 'dark' )

But it is also entirely possible that it means that our assumptions on gravity are wrong. That gravity is just a smidge stronger on large scales than we though. ( which would mean the observable matter is sufficient to explain motions... and therefore no dark matter at all )
MOdified Newtonian Dynamics, (* MOND) is a theory that supposes the latter to be the case and it accurately describes stellar motions without the need for dark matter.


Our Cosmology is already proven to be seriously flawed. 10 or 15 years ago our cosmology steadfastly predicted that the expansion of the universe was slowing down.

Turns out that its doing the exact opposite.

And so we invented another fudge factor to correct for the cosmic acceleration of expansion... and we named this imaginary culprit 'dark energy".

The most telling recent evidence that modern cosmology is seriously flawed is the Pioneer anomaly.


The first spacecraft that we have ever sent OUT of the solar system are NOT where our physics SAYS they SHOULD be,

Closer examination is showing the anomaly is visible in the trajectory data for any LONG term probe.


SO the very first time we step out of our home system, we find that things do not work as our theories say the should.


That begs pretty strongly for the idea that well will soon discover that our current theories are really far off.

If our theories change... then our assumptions change... and when they change... the evidence we have may point to something entirely different than a Big Bang.

multiple for sure and there not all over yet. What goes up must come down so to speak. For sure someday that huge ball of gas out there thats 2100x the size of our sun will go supernova and if that don't destroy everything when it goes red it sure will. All will eventually become a single mass and he we go again. We however will be dead way before that cuz will get knocked off by the next supervolcano or some rock a mile or so wide will hit the earth and ELE will get us all.

no wrong subject that the hair ball theory

I want to apologize for JustAsking . Now that I read my fourth post of this thread again responding to him could make an impression that I was mad or hostile against him . Sorry If I give that impression to you . It wasn't my intention.