How to move from 'friendly' to sexual?

Alright, so being a virgin, i'm getting frustrated and trying my best to get laid. However something that seems to be common with all the girls I see is that they used to think of me as just a friend because i never 'made a move.'

I had one of them tell me this and analyzed what happened in the past and realized this was the problem. So lately i've been trying to be more physical. I've started to touch girls like lightly on the shoulder or hugging instead of waving when i meet, etc, etc.

I can easily make eye contact no problem, and i'm trying to be more playful and funny when i talk with them instead of the usual "what do you do" interview stuff I used to do.


Now this has worked in getting girls to go out with me, or spend time or be around me, but then I can never push it to a level where I feel she wants me, or that it's going anywhere.

Since i've never been sexual before, I don't know how to get there, I can't escalate it to that level.



Take tonight for example. I'm out with my band and we're playing beer pong, things are going good, i get on the team with this smokin' hot blonde. We say hi exchange names, and throughout the night i'm checking her out, and she's giving me hi-fives and we're standing really close together and joking around, and in the off-games she's in the distance and i'll catch her gaze every once and awhile, etc. But it never goes past that.



TIPS, HELP, ANything, that will let me finally move on and be able to fully understand women so I won't be inept. It's like a catch22, i can't get them because i don't know what to do but i don't know what to do because i can't get them!

Dude,

So having recently lost my virginity in April, I'll have to tell you don't try. I finally decided that I was ready and just let my self go. Two weeks later I met this really hot girl at a party, she was a friend of a friend. We talked briefly, then later agian a few hours later. And before the sun had rose the day after 420. i had had sex seven times.

What do you mean don't try, if you don't try, from what i've seen it's not going to happen, that's been self-evident.

That's the problem: If you're interested in a girl, you're supposed to start flirting with her and expressing genuine interest right away, or you'll only be a friend, whether you like it or not.

Be cocky, be funny. . .you'll find a girl, I promise.

Alright, then how do you express interest without being creepy/too much?

The funny thing is a lot of people don't think I am too (a virgin), which I guess is a good thing?

I started a related thread a few days ago: How do you let someone know you like them?

I am similar to you in that I don't let girls know I like them sexually enough, so I've been thinking about this question also. The suggestion I would make is to try giving some physical compliments or just generally telling her you think she is beautiful. Most girls want you to be the one that is assertive. They won't come onto you if they don't think you like them that way, but if you compliment them they may be more confident letting you know they like you. And I think it is easier if you are alone with the girl, not just at a party, then you can try kissing her without worrying about other people around.

And the problem I find with the advice in these types of threads is no one is very specific. Some of us need specific examples of what was said, how each person reacted, etc. leading up to the sexual part.

Well I do think that guys approach this issue like it's something to solve, like a math problem. I know that guys want some answer like: #1,#2,#3, problem solved.

My suggestion is that you be yourself. If you find a particular girl attractive or interesting, talk to her and see what happens. Just stop thinking about how you're going to get her in bed. Girls can sense that a million miles away.

If things are going good, why don't you just straight up ask them out?

^^ well in this particular case it's a friend's friend and there always there, so if things didn't work out it'd be awkward.

Well NEWREBA that's what i've been doing for the past 21 years and nothings happened. Unfortunately me being myself gets us as far as your basic what do you do, where are you from, etc, etc.

Which goes nowhere.

In his story he said he did try talking to a girl and seeing what happened...nothing. And I think he was hoping that girls would sense that he wants to get them in bed.
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He said he does go out with girls, just can't get sexual with them.

Hey Dude!!

Okay, I think its Confidence, they way you talk to them, being happy and funny... a girl knows if you like her when you give her a nice look, and throw in a compliment or too!!
If she is enjoying herself and flirts back with you, then your onto a good start!!

The right trousers and working up a huge boner usually seems to do the trick.

Now THAT is confidence.

By not saying "Hey, baby. You have a sexy asshole."

If you google "how to flirt," you'll find that lots of guys have written books/e-books on "How TO Flirt With Women." They explain how you use playful teasing, humor etc etc to show interest without being at all sexual.

Yeah i've been doing my best to actually start flirting, as before I never would because of nervousness.

I'm starting to tease/joke around with woman as before I would only do that to guys and not girls. Like they could say something like "Aw man I don't know what's wrong today I can't make anything!" (meaning using the same example the ping pong ball in the cup) and i'll lightly nudge them on the arm and say like "Oh so you're saying it's a pretty normal night for you tonight?" with a smile, and they usually laugh/smile.

But it's weird, like i don't know at what point, after how much, after any signs of interest, etc when it's a good idea to go further. And is going further at that point just as simple as kissing her?

I don't know, i think i'm just too fearful of rejection again but i guess you can't regret the shots you don't take.