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Iraq...Mission Accomplished(Finally)!!!

Originally Posted by sargon20 Indeed. We can have it displayed AT THE PUMP right after the credit card swipe. That wouldn't work in New Jersey though I do like it. Beats those promos and horrible

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Old 06-20-2008   #16 (permalink)
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Indeed. We can have it displayed AT THE PUMP right after the credit card swipe.
That wouldn't work in New Jersey though I do like it. Beats those promos and horrible music over the speakers.
 
Old 06-20-2008   #17 (permalink)
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Still trying to figure out why this is newsworthy! Did anybody really think the people of Iraq would not be pumping oil from their oil rich country or something?
Why can't people connect-the-dots? Simply because they don't want to.

Document Says Oil Chiefs Met With Cheney Task Force

By Dana Milbank and Justin Blum
Washington Post Staff Writers
Wednesday, November 16, 2005; Page A01

A White House document shows that executives from big oil companies met with Vice President Cheney's energy task force in 2001 -- something long suspected by environmentalists but denied as recently as last week by industry officials testifying before Congress.

The document, obtained this week by The Washington Post, shows that officials from Exxon Mobil Corp., Conoco (before its merger with Phillips), Shell Oil Co. and BP America Inc. met in the White House complex with the Cheney aides who were developing a national energy policy, parts of which became law and parts of which are still being debated.

Document Says Oil Chiefs Met With Cheney Task Force

And now what a shock!! They get a NO BID contract in Iraq.
 
Old 06-20-2008   #18 (permalink)
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It is naive to think that this was not the primary mission of the Iraq occupation (that is exactly what it is) in the first place.

Thank God none of the 4000+ Americans dead were from the rich, upper class oil families that get to profit from this plan. No, the American soldiers are primarily from the Heartland believing Bush's Bullshit about how it's for "America." Well, it is for his America.

Not to mention the hundred's of thousands of innocent Irag's we slaughtered as acceptable collateral damage.

ALL evidence shows that Bush/Cheney LIED to the American people. They are traitors to this country and should be tried and punished.

And don't give me the BS about "everyone thought he had WMDs"... bullshit... a lot of people asked for more evidence... including the weapon inspectors on the ground in Iraq.

-Mike
 
Old 06-20-2008   #19 (permalink)
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It is naive to think that this was not the primary mission of the Iraq occupation (that is exactly what it is) in the first place.

Thank God none of the 4000+ Americans dead were from the rich, upper class oil families that get to profit from this plan. No, the American soldiers are primarily from the Heartland believing Bush's Bullshit about how it's for "America." Well, it is for his America.

Not to mention the hundred's of thousands of innocent Iraq's we slaughtered as acceptable collateral damage.

ALL evidence shows that Bush/Cheney LIED to the American people. They are traitors to this country and should be tried and punished.

And don't give me the BS about "everyone thought he had WMDs"... bullshit... a lot of people asked for more evidence... including the weapon inspectors on the ground in Iraq.

-Mike
Of course. Remember how the conservatives trashed Hans Blix the UN Weapons Inspector? Slimmed him good.

"There were about 700 inspections, and in no case did we find weapons of mass destruction," said Hans Blix, the Swedish diplomat called out of retirement to serve as the United Nations' chief weapons inspector from 2000 to 2003

his work in Iraq was cut short when the United States and the United Kingdom took disarmament into their own hands in March of last year.

U.N. weapons inspector Hans Blix faults Bush Administration for lack of "critical thinking" in Iraq
 
Old 06-20-2008   #20 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by mikeyh9in View Post
It is naive to think that this was not the primary mission of the Iraq occupation (that is exactly what it is) in the first place.

Thank God none of the 4000+ Americans dead were from the rich, upper class oil families that get to profit from this plan. No, the American soldiers are primarily from the Heartland believing Bush's Bullshit about how it's for "America." Well, it is for his America.

Not to mention the hundred's of thousands of innocent Irag's we slaughtered as acceptable collateral damage.

ALL evidence shows that Bush/Cheney LIED to the American people. They are traitors to this country and should be tried and punished.

And don't give me the BS about "everyone thought he had WMDs"... bullshit... a lot of people asked for more evidence... including the weapon inspectors on the ground in Iraq.

-Mike
Amen. I have fantasies of the next president ordering their arrest immediately after the inauguration but I'm not holding my breath. There will be placating Greek choruses of, "Let's move on! It's over!" excusing the whole fiasco.
 
Old 06-21-2008   #21 (permalink)
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Amen. I have fantasies of the next president ordering their arrest immediately after the inauguration but I'm not holding my breath. There will be placating Greek choruses of, "Let's move on! It's over!" excusing the whole fiasco.
That's the most stunning thing of all the 'let's forget it and move on' crowd. What future president is not going to look back and not see what this administration got away with? It makes Nixon's crimes seem like misdemeanors. And they all get to walk away and retire in luxury?
 
Old 06-21-2008   #22 (permalink)
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That's the most stunning thing of all the 'let's forget it and move on' crowd. What future president is not going to look back and not see what this administration got away with? It makes Nixon's crimes seem like misdemeanors. And they all get to walk away and retire in luxury?
Sure glad my life isn’t a conspiracy theory-a-thon based on imagined crimes!

Maybe it would help if you turn your attention to other world players like France and Russia who were caught red-handed working closely with Saddam in the Oil-For-Food debauchery along with a very-long list of other scams throughout history. That way, you may see the world isn’t this pleasant little paradise you like to pretend it is and sometimes the United States and United Kingdom need too play the same game everybody else is.
 
Old 06-21-2008   #23 (permalink)
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The world is a vampire.
 
Old 06-21-2008   #24 (permalink)
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Sure glad my life isn’t a conspiracy theory-a-thon based on imagined crimes!

Maybe it would help if you turn your attention to other world players like France and Russia who were caught red-handed working closely with Saddam in the Oil-For-Food debauchery along with a very-long list of other scams throughout history. That way, you may see the world isn’t this pleasant little paradise you like to pretend it is and sometimes the United States and United Kingdom need too play the same game everybody else is.
What crimes, pray tell, might be imagined? Outing Valerie Plame? Warrantless wiretapping? Denial of habeas corpus? Flouting the Geneva Convention by authorizing war crimes? Lying to the country about the reasons and need for war?
 
Old 06-21-2008   #25 (permalink)
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Sure glad my life isn’t a conspiracy theory-a-thon based on imagined crimes!

Maybe it would help if you turn your attention to other world players like France and Russia who were caught red-handed working closely with Saddam in the Oil-For-Food debauchery along with a very-long list of other scams throughout history. That way, you may see the world isn’t this pleasant little paradise you like to pretend it is and sometimes the United States and United Kingdom need too play the same game everybody else is.
Why worry about the speck in your brothers eye and ignore the plank in your own?
 
Old 06-21-2008   #26 (permalink)
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What crimes, pray tell, might be imagined? Outing Valerie Plame? Warrantless wiretapping? Denial of habeas corpus? Flouting the Geneva Convention by authorizing war crimes? Lying to the country about the reasons and need for war?

Your list includes allegations, not convictions and its very important you note that as you speak like you have the latter when reality says you only have the former.
 
Old 06-21-2008   #27 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by mikeyh9in View Post
It is naive to think that this was not the primary mission of the Iraq occupation (that is exactly what it is) in the first place.

Thank God none of the 4000+ Americans dead were from the rich, upper class oil families that get to profit from this plan. No, the American soldiers are primarily from the Heartland believing Bush's Bullshit about how it's for "America." Well, it is for his America.

Not to mention the hundred's of thousands of innocent Irag's we slaughtered as acceptable collateral damage.

ALL evidence shows that Bush/Cheney LIED to the American people. They are traitors to this country and should be tried and punished.

And don't give me the BS about "everyone thought he had WMDs"... bullshit... a lot of people asked for more evidence... including the weapon inspectors on the ground in Iraq.

-Mike
Another general statement made by someone that think's they understand Intel gathering and how it's presented.

I've said this before in another thread. Bush is not sitting in his own personal dark room developing satellite photos, then comes running out saying "looky here, Saddam has some of those WMDs!" Which is followed by congress going "oooh aaaah, he must be right let's give the president power to do what he wants and go to war!"

Both republicans and democrats sit on the Intel comittee.

Here is some light reading if you care to understand how the system actually works. http://fas.org/sgp/crs/intel/RL32525.pdf

Clinton stated over and over that Saddam had WMDs.

If Bush and Cheney are to stand trial than so must the entire congress. Or at the minimum everyone that voted for the war. To blame this situation on a few people or even one party is ludicris and nothing more than being ignorant just to say that a certain side of the isle is correct.

And for the billionth time, I'm not republican. I am Independant voter.

Having an opinion is fine, but before calling for the heads of people you need to understand how the system really works.
 
Old 06-21-2008   #28 (permalink)
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Why worry about the speck in your brothers eye and ignore the plank in your own?
Why worry about the plank in my eye when alleged friends and enemies alike have the whole forest in theirs?
 
Old 06-21-2008   #29 (permalink)
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Another general statement made by someone that think's they understand Intel gathering and how it's presented.

I've said this before in another thread. Bush is not sitting in his own personal dark room developing satellite photos, then comes running out saying "looky here, Saddam has some of those WMDs!" Which is followed by congress going "oooh aaaah, he must be right let's give the president power to do what he wants and go to war!"

Both republicans and democrats sit on the Intel comittee.

Here is some light reading if you care to understand how the system actually works. http://fas.org/sgp/crs/intel/RL32525.pdf

Clinton stated over and over that Saddam had WMDs.

If Bush and Cheney are to stand trial than so must the entire congress. Or at the minimum everyone that voted for the war. To blame this situation on a few people or even one party is ludicris and nothing more than being ignorant just to say that a certain side of the isle is correct.

And for the billionth time, I'm not republican. I am Independant voter.

Having an opinion is fine, but before calling for the heads of people you need to understand how the system really works.
That and they need to stop pretending it was not Saddam’s obligation to prove he was complying with his agreements, not our responsibility to take his word for it.
 
Old 06-21-2008   #30 (permalink)
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That and they need to stop pretending it was not Saddam’s obligation to prove he was complying with his agreements, not our responsibility to take his word for it.
You keep on with your delusions that Saddam meant a thing. All we have to do is pull out the 'Saddam and the mushroom cloud' and people like you get scared. Fear has trumped reason. Ever heard of Hans Blix? Yeah go ahead and slime him too. He was there and found nothing. Are you capable of more than Bush/Cheney circa 2002 propaganda?
 

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