Should Canada Still Offer Refuge to American Military Deserters?

The big differece here is that there is no draft as opposed to Vietnam when there was one.

Just because he didn't do his homework on what the National Guard can and can not do, does NOT give him a free pass to cry over it.

It's like not doing your homework in school and then be given an F and crying about how unfair that grade is.

As for death being a punishment for AWOL (now call Unauthorized Absence) I can't even remember WHEN that punishment was last enacted. Chances are he'd just be thrown in Leavenworth for 5 or 6 years with a Dishonorable discharge or just given the Dishonorable discharge and he could go on his merry way.

HOWEVER,

The title of the thread is: Should Canada Still Offer Refuge to American Military Deserters?

Canada is a soverign country and can pass any laws their elected officals want regardless of what and how America wants. It's their country, let them do what they want to.

And your penis is at war with?

And...didn't our current coward in chief avoid Vietnam services by involving himself in the Air National Guard? Sounds like the loopholes have been closed.

I believe Canada should keep the man, provided he becomes a respectable citizen.

On the other hand, the "war" was entered dishonestly, through false information and ill thought out reasons and motivations.

The right and wrong in this arena can be endlessly debated.

I'd go for the man's honesty, seeing as the integrity of the USA is suspect.

Objecting to the war and not desiring to kill is a whole different thing than being a willing killer.

Bad thinking.

You people who are calling him a 'coward' or 'sissy' are really answering the question at hand. If he's such a bad soldier, then he doesn't belong on the battlefield.

I agree with Jason. If he's working and contributing in Canada, why can't he be allowed to do the same in the US?

Don't forget Cheney... didn't he have 2 student deferrments and then marriage deferrment, and then finally spawn a kid and get the married with child exemption?

It would be nice if some of you would stop with this ridiculousness! Many Americas died in the Gulf War and Saddam ended up living because he signed a surrender agreement. Saddam spent a decade + breaking the terms of his surrender agreement in every way possible including shooting at American jets patrolling the no-fly zone.

Please stop pretending we reentered Iraq with “dishonesty”, “false information” or any of the other baseless conspiracy theories flying around. While it may be perfectly fine with you Saddam spent a decade+ laughing in the faces of the dead, maimed & injured Americans that fought prior to his surrender it’s not fine with me. While it may be perfectly fine with you some of our alleged allies like France fucked us by not enforcing UN Mandates against Saddam because they were fucking us with the oil-for-food thingy it’s not fine with me.

If Germany or Japan fucked US after WWII they would have been paid a visit just like Saddam was. “Dishonesty/false information” my ass! And “integrity” = yawn, please don’t pretend we did anything wrong buy making a pathetic despot abide by his surrender agreements, its not like he wasn’t given plenty of warning before he ended up swinging from a rope recently.

Are you for real, or are you just talking shit?

Everything that you wrote here is false, but it's your "Dont' fuck with us or we'll invade you" attitude that bothers me the most.

^Realisitically, people who are politically connected or wealthy keep their children out of combat all the time, Canada is just the option for people who lack those privileges.

But, this is a question I can't answer as I'm not Canadian. If Canada, or other nations, offer safe harbor to those who no longer want to take part in the U.S. military, for whatever reason, so be it. Their choice.

As for the deserter, I won't judge someone negatively who has been put in a situation of war. Most, including me, really have no frame of reference to even begin to judge. But, I can say, as the daughter of a Vet, actually two, as a family member, and friend of those who have seen combat - it can be devastating. I feel much of the damage could have been mitigated by them seeing less action, however, unfortunately so few of the population actually go to war, those who do bare the brunt and their lives and family are impacted greatly.

In other words, if he knows he can't handle more - let him out. He served and isn't a pussy.

[quote=1BiGG1;1543457]It would be nice if some of you would stop with this ridiculousness! Many Americas died in the Gulf War and Saddam ended up living because he signed a surrender agreement. Saddam spent a decade + breaking the terms of his surrender agreement in every way possible including shooting at American jets patrolling the no-fly zone.

Wasn't it that there were some 80 Americans who died in the initial gulf war?

A far cry from what has happened and continues to happen.

The reason for entering the war was...?

I agree 100%.

100% for real, everything I typed is true. If you think it was ok for Saddam to fuck the world and laugh in the faces of the dead, maimed & injured for a decade plus breaking his surrender agreements you certainly have that right but then so did the United States have the right to remove him from power as clearly spelled out in the surrender agreements Saddam signed and the many UN Mandates that followed.

Saddam signed an agreement clearly stating UN inspectors had full access to verify Saddam was abiding by his surrender agreement. Saddam changed his mind afterward thinking nobody had the balls to make sure he abided by his surrender agreement = bad thinking on Saddam’s part!

And please recall the exact tonnage of the Weapons of Mass Destruction that were found...?