Dear Liberals of the USA ...

Ok I'm an environmentalist at heart (keep your groans and moans to yourself, unless you're jerking off lol). My problem with drilling at ANWAR is that no one really knows just how much oil is up there. There could be 2 years worth of oil, 20 years of oil, or not much at all. Drilling for more oil is just a bandaid for our energy problems. If our government invested a small percentage of the federal gasoline tax, and use it to start researching and developing clean and cheap energy sources, then oil would not be in such high demand, prices for everything will decrease, the economy will improve, and the environment will improve. I know there is more involved to all of this, but its a start.

As for a quick fix (of sorts) take some of the fuel taxes, and use them to bring the price of hybrids, bio-diesel, and electric cars down to a level where the average joe could afford it. Once again, demand for oil will decrease, the price of oil will decrease, prices of everything else will decrease, the environment will be greatly helped, and the economy will begin to recover.

I think this could possibly work as soon as more of these babies are on the market... 300 Miles Per Gallon! Aptera Motors Unveils Ultra Efficient All-Electric and Plug-In Hybrid

Yes, I’m quite well-aware of what year it is but thank you for pointing out the irrelevant obvious anyway. Prior year industry statistics are like common to use in conversation and its not like demand has decreased a whole lot anyway.

Industry Statistics

Don’t think so, my original post stated ” start supporting domestic fuel production starting with exploring/drilling ANWR immediately” the key word there being “fuel”

The decision is with congress. It is federal land, not state, as Prudhoe is.

If it was up to the people of Alaska, it would have been developed 25 years ago.
I think it should be left in the ground, that is a minority opinion here. People who would personally benefit financially from it are for it. Big surprise.

It doesn't have the slightest chance of going anywhere in Congress. It isn't presently much discussed here. Building a natural gas pipeline is.

Good post, lol.

seriously dude... come on now, why you gotta bring the bears into this? they never did anything to you!

it wouldnt matter anyway.. with 85 million people joining this world every year.. with ever more developing industrialized countries the demand will surpass the production astronomicaly. It wouldnt matter if that happens in ten years of in 20. Our whole world-economy is build on one thing.. oil. From your chicken wings to the clothes you wear to your hospital when your sick and the meds you need. Everything is produced by and maintained with the use of oil.

Did nobody ever teach you its bad to bet everything on one horse? But.. until people at large open their eyes we will go on as if everything is okay. And i'm not even talking about the enviroment. I'm talking about keeping this planet running.

Yeah, Rubi will point out how you can't spell, while we pay for gas to the tune of $5.00 a gallon.

Thanks Rubbi.

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Originally Posted by 1BiGG1 Yes, I’m quite well-aware of what year it is but thank you for pointing out the irrelevant obvious anyway. Prior year industry statistics are like common to use in conversation and its not like demand has decreased a whole lot anyway.

You changed the premise of your argument when I provided evidence of its weakness, was my point. The 2007 was a throwaway.

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Originally Posted by 1BiGG1 Factoring in the cost to defend imported oil and the cost of jobs and industry sent abroad = nearly a trillion dollars!

The link provided is (surprise surprise to industry stats the same ones you cited and I called you on in terms of veracity), in support of an industry argument, hardly an objective basis for your argument. I asked for citations that back up your assertion that 'factoring in' spending on Jobs and industry being send overseas and Military spending) brings spending to 1$ Trillion. Also, what you have not done, which I should have asked you was over what time scale. If you mean anually then are you suggesting that 'missing' figure amounts to close to $500 Billion p.a. or more than twice US annual spending on Iraq - Is that what you're saying?

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Originally Posted by 1BiGG1 Don’t think so, my original post stated ” start supporting domestic fuel production starting with exploring/drilling ANWR immediately” the key word there being “fuel”

But you cited OIL in your response, I merely responded in kind. Does the US spend hundreds of billions annually on Gas imports (the volume of which is rising, actually) ? If not, then let me ask again; where will these trillions be saved from being spent overseas ... how much of this will directly be fed into the domestic economy ... over what cost recovery timescale ...

I'm open to the arggument but you made the assertion, I merely asked you to back it up. Thus far you have evaded the question and cited Oil Industry statistics that don't address a large part of your underlying argument. Quite a weak performance so far, IMO.

Continuing to think fossil fuels are the answer is a mistake. It's a Band-Aid on a big problem.

Ahem.
(Happy now?)

Don't you just luv this guy?
Totally agree bear.

I've noted that as the price of fuel rises, grammar and spelling skills decrease on this site. Thanks for helping our American cousins Senor.

S'olright, vince.
(Akchalee, I seldum korrect anyone ... very rareley. And wen I do, its as a [sometimez danjrus] joke. Sumtimes I korecdt typose in quoets, but without pointing them uot. Woulden want 2 B thouhgt pumpus. Iz it 2 laet?)