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Originally Posted by dxjnorto  You're talking female circumcision now. You can't get that in the states. At least not for the last twenty-five or thirty years. |
No, Semantic-arguing-smartass:
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Several types of research have documented that male circumcision significantly reduces the risk of HIV acquisition by men during penile-vaginal sex.
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Male Circumcision and Risk for HIV Transmission: Implications for the United States | Factsheets | CDC HIV/AIDS
The reason it hasn't stopped the HIV rate in the US, is largely because of the Gay Liberation movement in the 70s and 80s; the first medically proven cases of HIV were in gay males in Manhattan in 1979-1980.. . .hence it was called GRID (Gay-Related Immune Deficiency) and believed to be caused by
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Much was made in the early years of the epidemic of a so-called 'Patient Zero' who was the basis of a complex "transmission scenario" compiled by Dr. William Darrow and colleagues at the Centre for Disease Control in the US. This epidemiological study showed how 'Patient O' (mistakenly identified in the press as 'Patient Zero') had given HIV to multiple partners, who then in turn transmitted it to others and rapidly spread the virus to locations all over the world. A journalist, Randy Shilts, subsequently wrote an book17 based on Darrow's findings, which named Patient Zero as a gay Canadian flight attendant called Gaetan Dugas. For several years, Dugas was vilified as a 'mass spreader' of HIV and the original source of the HIV epidemic among gay men. However, four years after the publication of Shilts' article, Dr. Darrow repudiated his study, admitting its methods were flawed and that Shilts' had misrepresented its conclusions.
While Gaetan Dugas was a real person who did eventually die of AIDS, the Patient Zero story was not much more than myth and scaremongering. HIV in the US was to a large degree initially spread by gay men, but this occurred on a huge scale over many years, probably a long time before Dugas even began to travel.
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The Blood Industry
As blood transfusions became a routine part of medical practice, an industry to meet this increased demand for blood began to develop rapidly. In some countries such as the USA , donors were paid to give blood, a policy that often attracted those most desperate for cash; among them intravenous drug users. In the early stages of the epidemic, doctors were unaware of how easily HIV could be spread and blood donations remained unscreened. This blood was then sent worldwide, and unfortunately most people who received infected donations went on to become HIV positive themselves.
In the late 1960's haemophiliacs also began to benefit from the blood clotting properties of a product called Factor VIII. However, to produce this coagulant, blood from hundreds of individual donors had to be pooled. This meant that a single donation of HIV+ blood could contaminate a huge batch of Factor VIII. This put thousands of haemophiliacs all over the world at risk of HIV, and many subsequently became infected with the virus.
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The Origin of HIV and the First Cases of AIDS
While donated blood is now required by law to be tested for HIV, it still continues to be spread by the use of unclean hypodermic needles.
Unprotected, receptive anal sex involves ejaculation into the anal canal/rectum. This HIV-infected semen is absorbed into through the rectal lining (which is onle one cell thick) and directly into the blood stream and internal organs.
Point: Circumcision will not save you from either of the primary means of infection.
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This is why I want this thread to be deleted; no matter what happens, you'll just find ways to drag the "debate" further and further away from the question of "How much does the procedure cost?" and you'll never get anywhere. I'm 100% sure that i'll see you mentioning circumcision in threads that have absolutely nothing to do with your beliefs, so therefore this thread is no longer needed.
