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Old 05-30-2008   #1 (permalink)
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Father Pfleger the Crusader

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PHENOMENAL. Between this guy and reverend wright, baracky is starting to get some serious street cred. The Revolution is beginning...

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Old 05-30-2008   #2 (permalink)
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YouTube - Father Pfleger

PHENOMENAL. Between this guy and reverend wright, baracky is starting to get some serious street cred. The Revolution is beginning...
Only fox is covering this...story is buried in the rush to coronate Obama.
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Old 05-30-2008   #3 (permalink)
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When does it become a political meetingplace and therefore lose its tax exemptions?

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Old 05-30-2008   #4 (permalink)
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I didn't know "liberation theology" was here in the USA. I thought it was predominantly a South/Central American phenomenon. Interesting none the less.

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Old 05-30-2008   #5 (permalink)
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Only fox is covering this...story is buried in the rush to coronate Obama.
Very true. Last night it was the first topic on the primetime fox shows, but it was really nowhere to be found on the others. Anderson Coop covered it but after a LENGTHY segment on the whole mcclellan book shit.

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Old 05-30-2008   #6 (permalink)
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When does it become a political meetingplace and therefore lose its tax exemptions?
I wonder that too.
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I didn't know "liberation theology" was here in the USA. I thought it was predominantly a South/Central American phenomenon. Interesting none the less.
It's definitely being kept alive at Obama's Church. Fox did a whole segment on liberation theology because Hannity had an old interview with Rev. Wright where he defended himself by trying to explain liberation theology. It was an interesting segment on the theology. I have one question for Obama...After twenty years at Trinity, Do you believe in and practice Rev. Wright's and Father Pfleger's brand of Liberaton Theology?
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Old 05-30-2008   #7 (permalink)
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If he doesn't he is a bitch

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Old 05-30-2008   #8 (permalink)
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Only fox is covering this...
They're the only ones covering it because they are "right" leaning. When will you guys get it? Obama isn't liable for what other people say =) Now, if Obama said these things, there would be a story. Heck, Obama hasn't even been back to that church since his divorce from Wright and this latest video is from a couple of days ago.

Keep trying.... Obama will be crowned very soon (if he hasn't already). Rational people understand that Obama does not share these views; there is a complete BODY OF WORK throughout Obama's life to support this notion.

Fox doesn't want Obama in office anyway - they won't get interviews and will never have the lead story. In affect, their ratings will be dropping very soon.

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Old 05-30-2008   #9 (permalink)
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Well if obama doesn't share the beliefs of a lot of what these two guys have said then he is not in touch with reality and black people. Is that what your saying?

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Old 05-30-2008   #10 (permalink)
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Other cable stations are now running the story, but its pretty clear that Obama isn't being vilified for it. For once, they're holding the person who said it accountable.

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Well if obama doesn't share the beliefs of a lot of what these two guys have said then he is not in touch with reality and black people. Is that what your saying?
Dude...lol. Obama's spiritual beliefs have nothing to do with the political angst the 2 pastors have been unleashing. If ANYONE could find ANY statement Obama has made in 45 yrs that could even be viewed as aligned with their ideology, we'd have heard about it by now. This is proof positive that Obama just does not share those views.

I realize it pains you that nothing is sticking to Obama, but you need to start dealing with it. Next thing we're going to hear is that in 1979, Obama took a ride in taxi to somewhere in south Chicago. When investigated further, it turns out the taxi driver was a Muslim! OMG!!! /gasp

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Old 05-30-2008   #12 (permalink)
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Btw, I just saw the clip again and thought it was pretty damn funny. =) Although distasteful, he pretty much nailed it. LOL

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Old 05-30-2008   #13 (permalink)
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You don't see what I am saying because apparently you have me labeled as anti-obama. I am anti-obama when it comes to his bullshit dream rhetoric. But if obama is down with these guys then I am down with him because If obama is the real fucking deal he HAS to believe some of what they are preaching because IT IS THE FUCKING TRUTH. If you don't think he agrees with any of what reverend wright said then you shouldn't vote for him because that means he is a spineless egghead and doesn't know shit about being a poor black man in a white man's society.

Like I have said in many a thread over the last few months; reverend wright, and now pfleger the crusader, are the only real things to me that give obama any type of real credit. Thank god for these two guys because if not for them nothing about obama is appealing to me.

It is the spineless obamamaniacs, who sit there and try to tell me he doesn't share any of these beliefs with his preachers, who make me sick. If he doesn't then he doesn't deserve to be president and if you really don't think he doesn't share those similar values then you shouldn't vote for him because you don't have a fucking clue about what he is really about. Let the revolution begin. Wright/Pfleger taking over watch out!

If phleger got it right then how come obama doesn't agree with him in your eyes? If reverend wright has got it right then if obama doesn't agree then he is wrong! Proof positive he doesn't share those beliefs, c'mon son WAKE THE FUCK UP!!! IF OBAMA WAS THE REAL DEAL HE WOULD SHARE MOST OF THOSE BELIEFS. IF YOU WERE A REAL OBAMA FAN YOU WOULD ADMIT HE SHARES THOSE BELIEFS.

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Old 05-30-2008   #14 (permalink)
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Few politicians in this era of all knowing Big Brother can carry off being Harry Truman, let alone trying to be themselves. The whole all seeing Unsleeping Eye watches people in politics. The further up you are on the ladder, the more transparent your walls are, the the more cameras are in your face.

It isn't street cred Obama is looking for but his ability to say "this is wrong". I think if Obama wanted to add a vast amount of street cred to his campaign, he ought to invite Robin Williams or Lewis Black to speak on his behalf.

It would be fun, but it won't happen. These days, all folks play safe.

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Old 05-30-2008   #15 (permalink)
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I'm starting to understand that your brain can't process certain things. Let me break it down for you this way:

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You don't see what I am saying because apparently you have me labeled as anti-obama. If obama is the real fucking deal he HAS to believe some of what they are preaching because IT IS THE FUCKING TRUTH. If you don't think he agrees with any of what reverend wright said then you shouldn't vote for him because that means he is a spineless egghead and doesn't know shit about being a poor black man in a white man's society.
I don't care if you like Obama or not. Obama is aligned with them spiritually. He wouldn't be a member of the church otherwise. Thats the common thread in a church; a share of beliefs. Beliefs are also described as a faith in something. A political viewpoint is neither a belief nor a faith, its an ideology. Obama is not with them ideologically speaking. My episcopalian priest is a republican; I'm a democrat, yet I still go to his church because we share "belief" or "faith" in the same things.

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Like I have said in many a thread over the last few months; reverend wright, and now pfleger the crusader, are the only real things to me that give obama any type of real credit.
Obama and his policies are what should be building his credit with you, not out-of-the-mainstream commentary from people that do not share in Obama's ideology.

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It is the spineless obamamaniacs who sit there and try to tell me he doesn't share any of these beliefs with his preachers who make me sick.
Why do all Billary supporters sound like poor sports? I said he does not share in their ideology. I'm sure they are quite well aligned spiritually, however.

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If he doesn't then he doesn't deserve to be president and if you really don't think he doesn't share those similar values then you shouldn't vote for him because you don't have a fucking clue about what he is really about.
Unlike you, I've read Obama's books, I've seen him in person and have volunteered for his campaign in my hometown. I can tell you unequivocally that I know who is and what he stands for. You on the other hand, get your viewpoint from Fox News because of their "fair and balanced" sound bite brand of journalism.

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Let the revolution begin. Wright/Pfleger taking over watch out!
If this is your last hope, all hope is lost for Hillary.

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Proof positive he doesn't share those beliefs, WAKE THE FUCK UP!!!
I didn't say that. He does share in their beliefs, just not in their ideology.

Please post again... you are too easy to marginalize. You must be one of those "Under 50, white, hardworking without secondary education" demographic that Hillary keeps waving around as her constituency. Good grief... lol

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