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why dont ethnic people tip?

I was told when young that if one received good service, one gave 10% in appreciation, if not then less. There seems to be a percentage inflation.

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Old 05-13-2008   #31 (permalink)
kalipygian is online now

I was told when young that if one received good service, one gave 10% in appreciation, if not then less. There seems to be a percentage inflation.
 
Old 05-13-2008   #32 (permalink)
Northland is offline

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now dont get me wrong, I get my fair share of white trash that doesn't tip either. but yeaaaaa 90% Black, asians, hispanics....dont....why?
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Whoever is the oldest at the table, Im assuming is paying...not the color


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if they cant afford to tip then they shouldnt eat out. Its a slap in the face. If you decide to go out, knowing you have no money to tip or don't plan on it. Then well, that to me shows what type of person you are.

I say that, but at the same time. Some people are raised to not tip or tip badly...and they dont know. Well still...not my problem...this is 2008, need to learn...grow a fuken conscience
Perhaps it's your dumbass attitude coming across. Let me educate you kid, I am an Iraqi which I suppose would fit your prejudicial word of ethnic; I tip and I tip quite generously. Minimum is at 20% and then rounded up to the next dollar. For delivery persons it is on a different tier-UPS is five dollar standard, ten dollar large package, fifteen dollars if more than one package. Grocery delivery is three dollars per bag.

Let me take you elsewhere- I tip cab drivers 20% rounded up, plus an additional dollar, two if they were human. I know a few cab drivers and they say the worst tippers tend to be white bitches and snooty nose white boys. Of course, it's well known that cabbies don't pick up Hispanics or blacks or any non-white (and no Jews either) because they clearly all live in the bad sections of the city.

In hotels, I leave five dollars daily-I frown upon leaving a twenty at the end of a week long stay; since there are often different persons cleaning each day. I receive thank you messages regularly on the desk in the rooms.



Let's see now-Ethnics (whatever they are) don't tip you properly,and neither does white trash (do you even understand what white trash means?), old people should be paying-listen up sonny, you young folks need to learn to pay your own way.


Loved that quote about whoever is oldest is the one you assume will pay, not the color. Hmm...so if the old guy is whiter than snow and the rest are Black, Hispanic, Asian, Martian and Plutonian it's still the ethnic folks who are doing you wrong? Explain, please.
 
Old 05-13-2008   #33 (permalink)
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its allllllllll about how you talk, present yourself. If you are ultra rugged/ghetto/ whatever the PC term is (mind you black or white, what we like to call "wigga's"...then i wont be rude...but i definately wont give you grinning ear to ear service like I usually do.
 
Old 05-13-2008   #34 (permalink)
marleyisalegend is offline

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I was a server for 4 years and I never had this problem. I think what NJ said has some merit. I heard other waiters talk about it, but I always gave my best service to everyone and got tipped pretty evenly across the ethnic spectrum.

The only "group" of people that left bad tips on a pretty reliable basis was the after-church crowd on Sundays at lunch. I always got the greedy families on Sundays!
off topic but the after-church crowd can be THE WORST!! i started working at a movie theater when passion of the christ came out, and you could NOT tell a church that it was sold out and there were no more seats. i had pastors and old ladies cursing me out to the high heavens in the lobby because there weren't any seats left

i mean these pastors knew every 4-letter word in the book like "what the fuck do you mean there are no seats left" and "why the hell isn't it playing in more auditoriums"
i swear to god this was pastors cursing at me. and when the movie was over, they congregated in the hallways just like they do at church. nobody could get into the auditoriums and we basically had to have our police officers escort them all out.
 
Old 05-13-2008   #35 (permalink)
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Loved that quote about whoever is oldest is the one you assume will pay, not the color. Hmm...so if the old guy is whiter than snow and the rest are Black, Hispanic, Asian, Martian and Plutonian it's still the ethnic folks who are doing you wrong? Explain, please


yeaa cuz thats sooo what i mean *rolls eyes*......get some sense...
 
Old 05-13-2008   #36 (permalink)
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I can't speak for Asian countries as I have never visited one but in Mexico, Italy, and most of Europe the tip is included in the bill. As an Iraqi person I can tell you we frequently receive wretched service even in fine dining establishments. Perhaps, some waiters have it in their heads that minorities tip poorly and it shows in the shoddy service they give. I'm sure you don't realize yur bias, but we do.



If you did not want to depend upon the kindness of others for your income; then perhaps you should have chosen a different career path.

Or perhaps these minorities sense his animosity, no matter how many times he fills their water glass.
If I had waited a few moments and read your fine response, I could have saved myself from my own rant. Thank you for the proper approach.


(and note-I made one change, it's in red)
 
Old 05-13-2008   #37 (permalink)
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its allllllllll about how you talk, present yourself. If you are ultra rugged/ghetto/ whatever the PC term is (mind you black or white, what we like to call "wigga's"...then i wont be rude...but i definately wont give you grinning ear to ear service like I usually do.
If you're going to be culturally selective on the kind of service you give then you don't deserve a tip at all. You're the one serving them.
 
Old 05-13-2008   #38 (permalink)
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I was told when young that if one received good service, one gave 10% in appreciation, if not then less. There seems to be a percentage inflation.

there seems to be a percentage inflation just like there seems to be an "inflation" with everyday things....duh....
 
Old 05-13-2008   #39 (permalink)
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I can't speak for Asian countries as I have never visited one but in Mexico, Italy, and most of Europe the tip is included in the bill. As a Black person I can tell you we frequently receive wretched service even in fine dining establishments. Perhaps, some waiters have it in their heads that minorities tip poorly and it shows in the shoddy service they give. I'm sure you don't realize yur bias, but we do.
So that begs the question which comes first, the chicken or the egg?
 
Old 05-13-2008   #40 (permalink)
woogexx is offline

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If you're going to be culturally selective on the kind of service you give then you don't deserve a tip at all. You're the one serving them.

oh ok......thanks...next time youre in the real world...lemme know...
 
Old 05-13-2008   #41 (permalink)
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oh ok......thanks...next time youre in the real world...lemme know...
I guess you didn't read the part where I said that I served for 4 years myself...
 
Old 05-13-2008   #42 (permalink)
marleyisalegend is offline

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Loved that quote about whoever is oldest is the one you assume will pay, not the color. Hmm...so if the old guy is whiter than snow and the rest are Black, Hispanic, Asian, Martian and Plutonian it's still the ethnic folks who are doing you wrong? Explain, please


yeaa cuz thats sooo what i mean *rolls eyes*......get some sense...
the title and some of your wording has been pretty offensive to minorities, so expect a few impassioned responses. i hope you've recognized that you may exhibit some behaviors of your own that may effect your tips. my first boyfriend was tall, dark, thuggish, rough around the edges and the stereotypical gangster type that you yourself said you'd give less than your best service to. he's an engineer for mercedes so if you don't treat him like he's stupid for sagging his jeans he's likely to tip you very well. there are some people who wear suits and ties to work who are horrible people. there are some people who wear raggedy t-shirts and torn jeans that are the nicest people you'll meet. when you start serving EVERYONE fairly and not just people in armani suits with briefcases, you may find that 90% drop. i apologize if some of the responses have been cutting, but you open yourself when you imply that a certain ethnicity engages in wrong behavior, there are probably restaurants with all-white clientele that tip poorly.
 
Old 05-13-2008   #43 (permalink)
woogexx is offline

no i got it....what im saying to you is you obviously had an abnormal experience with serving...saying everyone pretty much tipped you the same across the board....well great for you...but that is NOT how the real world works......i certainly didnt make up the reputation that ethnics tip bad.,...it didnt come out of the air. My coworkers complaing about the 2percent tip they got earlier....didnt just get imagined
 
Old 05-13-2008   #44 (permalink)
woogexx is offline

Nahh I know marley. I understand, it was a pretty point-blank question and if i was a minority and tipped i would be irriated. But Im not, im on the other end, and just like people complain about having to tip "that white girl". I can complain about people not tipping enough
 
Old 05-13-2008   #45 (permalink)
DrummerInATL is offline

This thread is just getting too offensive to handle at this point.
 

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