why dont ethnic people tip?

Judging for your topic I must not be "ethnic" because I always tip, and you just said I don't. Guess I need to find out what I am. (Although come to think of it, on past occasions, others have suggested as much).

My tip is variable, from as low as 10% for shitty service to as much as 20% for excellent. I don't believe you deserve any set standard regardless of how crappy you treat the table (especially if you've approached them all shitty-like because you're thinking "gawd, i gotta wait on these ethnic types and they don't tip worth a damn" ...hint hint).

If I'm really dissatisfied (especially poor service or too long waits for food) you'll not need to worry about your tip. That's because I get up and walk the hell on out.

I think at times it goes a little deeper then "We just cant afford it".....like if you can....and you still dont...

Im sorry to offend any body not white. Its not my intentions Im sorry. I have got some very nice tips from black people...its just so irriating....and it IS THE TRUTH...sometimes the truth hurts........my 90 percent is a little high...ill admit

Can't agree there. My white friends and I have done many tests. And they hate to admit it what's clearly happening is happening. But everything being equal it's race. Nothing else.

I've been to other countries and it happens. Nothing but race pure and simple. Countries were the populace is 95% white. No one of color around at all to speak of.

But I must add that the more upscale the restaurant is (and I mean REAL upscale) the less likely it is to happen.

I was starting to do that!!!...I nipped it in the bud tho...I walk up to you and talk to ya....try to get the feeling of ya. if you are pleasnt and nice. then i will be give that back. Even if there is a doubt in my mind I wont get a tip, or a good tip. Ill still be respectable. UNLESS they arent to me

note a few things. do ethnics really tip less, or do you notice when they don't tip right more than you notice white people not tipping right. do you serve mostly ethnic people?? maybe everybody tips horribly, but if you're seving mostly ethnics it would look like they do it more. be honest with yourself, do you give them the same respect you give white customers? if your line of thinking is that ethnic people tip less, i wonder if this affects the service that you provide to them. i've been in restaurants where a bouncy, upbeat, happy, smiley waiter will be that way at another table than come to mine with a lifeless "what do you want" sort of attitude. they may not realize it, and it may not be because i'm black, maybe they're having a bad day. without actual numbers, (the 90% sounds like a rough estimate) and without seeing you in action, we can't tell you YOU get tipped less from ethnic people, but to say that all of us tip poorly is slightly offensive. a behavior you see exhibited in some is being labeled behavior for all.

This has been the case with me several times and I am white as hell. (Actually part white, the rest is Choctaw Indian.)

it may be lack of math skills. i've been to restaurants where i had to figure the tip on my own (thank god for calculators on cell phones, i'm no math wiz) but i've been to places where the tip is NOT written on the bill. certain ethnicities perform poorly in school so maybe you need to give their math teachers a slap in the face!!

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Originally Posted by woogexx now dont get me wrong, I get my fair share of white trash that doesn't tip either. but yeaaaaa 90% Black, asians, hispanics....dont....why?

I can't speak for Asian countries as I have never visited one but in Mexico, Italy, and most of Europe the tip is included in the bill. As a Black person I can tell you we frequently receive wretched service even in fine dining establishments. Perhaps, some waiters have it in their heads that minorities tip poorly and it shows in the shoddy service they give. I'm sure you don't realize yur bias, but we do.

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Originally Posted by woogexx Quote: if they cant afford to tip then they shouldnt eat out. Its a slap in the face. If you decide to go out, knowing you have no money to tip or don't plan on it. Then well, that to me shows what type of person you are. Interesting. The tone and grammar used in your post tell me what type of person you are.

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Originally Posted by woogexx if i could get an extra 10 bucks an hour or get the owner to pay gratitudy on my bills. Dont you think Id do it?

If you did not want to depend upon the kindness of others for your income; then perhaps you should have chosen a different career path.

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Originally Posted by marleyisalegend well this could could go in circles for days, ethnic people make up a LARGE portion of the lower class, maybe they can't afford to tip you.

Or perhaps these minorities sense his animosity, no matter how many times he fills their water glass.

good point about choosing a different career path, but in fairness he did acknowledge that he does or atleast used to give less-than-stellar service to minorities.

on the first senetence, i've NEVER worked in a place that went on tips because i know how cheap EVERYBODY is. i worked in a cafe that accepted but didn't require tips for a few months. i would fix, modify, change, customize drinks and coffees and cafe au laits and roca mocachinos and often broke the rules so the customer could have their own choice of milk or an extra shot of espresso, and some of these would be 40, 50 dollar orders but the biggest tip i got (aside from $5 from a lovely woman named jane) was a dollar. 50 dollar order+ $1 tip= an angry marleyisalegend. again, that's why i never work in restaurants because i know how cheap people can be, and others you could bend over backwards and fly to the moon for them and they'll still tip horribly.

I have to laugh at this hard, as I've always tipped. I began tipping even more after working in the food industry and feeling the hell of it.

I was a server for 4 years and I never had this problem. I think what NJ said has some merit. I heard other waiters talk about it, but I always gave my best service to everyone and got tipped pretty evenly across the ethnic spectrum.

The only "group" of people that left bad tips on a pretty reliable basis was the after-church crowd on Sundays at lunch. I always got the greedy families on Sundays!

Mostly because of that annoying collection plate churches pass around.