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Bible's stance on circumcision

Galatians 5:2, King James version Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing. link to other translations: Galatians 5:2 Behold I, Paul, say to you that if

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Old 05-12-2008   #1 (permalink)
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Bible's stance on circumcision

Galatians 5:2, King James version

Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.


link to other translations:
Galatians 5:2 Behold I, Paul, say to you that if you receive

At first I was like, "well, there's lots of stuff in the old testament that Christians don't really believe in, like the ban on shellfish and such" then I'm like "woah, Jesus wasn't IN the old testament"

So is this the church's official stance? That anyone who is circumcised cannot receive divine absolution? Anyone more versed in the faith than I know the answer?
 
Old 05-12-2008   #2 (permalink)
njqt466 is offline

It's 3:42 AM, and the only thing you can find to do is search the bible for verses dealing with circumcision? Dude, just take a Tylenol PM and go to sleep.
 
Old 05-12-2008   #3 (permalink)
vxie is offline

umm... does it really matter what that fairytale book says?
 
Old 05-12-2008   #4 (permalink)
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It's 3:42 AM, and the only thing you can find to do is search the bible for verses dealing with circumcision? Dude, just take a Tylenol PM and go to sleep.
It's not the only thing I could find to do- I multitask. I'm searching the bible for verses dealing with circumcision AND jacking off at 3:42 AM

And to the man who says the bible is a fairytale story book for idiots, well, you're plain bigoted.
 
Old 05-12-2008   #5 (permalink)
liberia is offline

St. Paul was a charlatan. He had absolutely no authority to go against god`s covenant with Abraham. The only way he could make converts amongst the Greeks and Romans was to do away with circumcision. The whole christian faith was founded upon lies once it was Romanised. Look at the gnostic gospels eg. the gospel of St Thomas -- These books do not refer to virgin birth, miracles or rising from the dead. The gospels of the new testament were written long after Jesus died and were used by the Romans to subdue an empire.
 
Old 05-12-2008   #6 (permalink)
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St. Paul was a charlatan. He had absolutely no authority to go against god`s covenant with Abraham. The only way he could make converts amongst the Greeks and Romans was to do away with circumcision. The whole christian faith was founded upon lies once it was Romanised. Look at the gnostic gospels eg. the gospel of St Thomas -- These books do not refer to virgin birth, miracles or rising from the dead. The gospels of the new testament were written long after Jesus died and were used by the Romans to subdue an empire.
I didn't know what the gnostic gospels were so I wiki'd it.

"The term gnostic gospels refers to gnostic collections of writings about the teachings of Jesus, written around the 2nd century AD.[1] These gospels are not accepted by most mainstream Christians as part of the standard Biblical canon. Rather, they are part of what is called the New Testament apocrypha. However, public interest has been spurred by recent novels and films which refer to them."

So I guess what I'm saying is, it seems the gnostic gospels were also written long after Jesus died, and they are not accepted by most Christians.

You make a great point in regards to God's covenant with Abraham. Where DID Paul get such authority?
 
Old 05-12-2008   #7 (permalink)
dolfette is offline

it also says a son can't be judged for the sins of his father.
most cut were cut as infants...it's the sin of their parents.

i shoulda been a lawyer.
 
Old 05-12-2008   #8 (permalink)
liberia is offline

That`s the point, he had no authority!
 
Old 05-12-2008   #9 (permalink)
Mademoiselle Rouge is offline

I'm not circumsized.....where am i going?
 
Old 05-12-2008   #10 (permalink)
ManlyBanisters is offline

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I'm not circumsized.....where am i going?
Wisconsin.
 
Old 05-12-2008   #11 (permalink)
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It's not the only thing I could find to do- I multitask. I'm searching the bible for verses dealing with circumcision AND jacking off at 3:42 AM

And to the man who says the bible is a fairytale story book for idiots, well, you're plain bigoted.
I am pretty sure you can go to hell for jacking off to the bible.
 
Old 05-12-2008   #12 (permalink)
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Wisconsin.
Touche
 
Old 05-12-2008   #13 (permalink)
220483 is offline

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I'm not circumsized.....where am i going?
NO.. not to wisconsin...
you're going to MY bed!
 
Old 05-12-2008   #14 (permalink)
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I didn't know what the gnostic gospels were so I wiki'd it.

"The term gnostic gospels refers to gnostic collections of writings about the teachings of Jesus, written around the 2nd century AD.[1] These gospels are not accepted by most mainstream Christians as part of the standard Biblical canon. Rather, they are part of what is called the New Testament apocrypha. However, public interest has been spurred by recent novels and films which refer to them."

So I guess what I'm saying is, it seems the gnostic gospels were also written long after Jesus died, and they are not accepted by most Christians.

You make a great point in regards to God's covenant with Abraham. Where DID Paul get such authority?
The answer is God. God sent Jesus so that all might be saved.

Jesus came and preached his ministry during his 33 years on earth. Jesus had disciples who walked with him and learned the gospel upon which to build the Christian Church.

All of God's covenants with Abraham stand today. All Christians inherit the covenants God made with Abraham and the blessings through Grace rather than the Jewish Law.

Jesus came to fulfill the law. The Jewish Law was about "works" or laws the Jews abade by to be holy. By Jesus dying on the cross, we now live under "Grace." We are no longer bound by the Jewish Law. And everyone can be saved.

Paul's letter to the Galatian Church explains to new converts that they no longer are required to be circumcised because they are free from the law through the blood of Jesus.

Galatians 5:6 For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.
 
Old 05-12-2008   #15 (permalink)
Deno is offline

again on the circumcision?
 

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