05-12-2008
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#16 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Nick4444 no ... I think this guy was just a jerk ... as sadly, most gay guys are
that's why all my friends are straight; gays just tend to be nut jobs | Ah, Nick. I thought we were buds. I'm about as gay as you can get but I'm very down to earth. I totally disagree that that makes me boring, too. I just don't find drug-fucked, adolescent behaviour interesting. But I guess that makes me less interesting.
...but I'm still an awesome fuck!!!  | | | |
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05-12-2008
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#17 (permalink)
| | Senior Member | This whole thread is so sad. | | | |
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05-12-2008
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#18 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by DC_DEEP This whole thread is so sad. | No doubt!! I'm still stuck on how a guy who generalizes an entire people group has the stones to call himself either down to earth or even cute??
I am not even going to try to justify what your girlfriend's cousin did or didn't do to you but one guy does not the entire gay culture define. As a member of the "no time to worry about being cute because I don't fit any gay stereotypes" subgroup, let me just say you really don't sound any different than the guy you are putting down. But it seems fairly obvious that the fact that you attribute it to his being gay or cute is just sour grapes on your part because you didn't get to first base with him. Admit it.  | | | |
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05-12-2008
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#19 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Hellboy0 Ah, Nick. I thought we were buds. I'm about as gay as you can get but I'm very down to earth. I totally disagree that that makes me boring, too. I just don't find drug-fucked, adolescent behaviour interesting. But I guess that makes me less interesting.
...but I'm still an awesome fuck!!!  | goes without saying --- you're one of the exceptions that proves the rule Quote:
Originally Posted by kudo451 one guy does not the entire gay culture define. |
true, one example doesn't define a class ... vast, numerous examples do | | | |
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05-12-2008
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#20 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by kudo451 No doubt!! I'm still stuck on how a guy who generalizes an entire people group has the stones to call himself either down to earth or even cute??
I am not even going to try to justify what your girlfriend's cousin did or didn't do to you but one guy does not the entire gay culture define. As a member of the "no time to worry about being cute because I don't fit any gay stereotypes" subgroup, let me just say you really don't sound any different than the guy you are putting down. But it seems fairly obvious that the fact that you attribute it to his being gay or cute is just sour grapes on your part because you didn't get to first base with him. Admit it.  | That's what I was hinting at. On a regular basis, I see people who get offended when someone treats them the way they treat so many others.
The thread title would seem to indicate that the OP is rather shallow; getting a taste of it from the other side isn't that fun, eh? | | | |
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05-12-2008
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Originally Posted by woogexx Do CUTE down-to-earth gay guys still exist?
I seem to be the most down to earth gay guy I know. And I don't look like the hunchback of notre dame either.
we run into her 21 yr old cousin. I, being the normal person I am go to shake hands, introduce, say whats up.....he looks at my hand and then looks away.
Whats that all about?! he was cute...but seriously...is ANYONE THAT cute? To be that rude....I don't understand gay guys....at all......I was missing being taken. He made me open my eyes!
It just seems any gay guy thats even relatively cute.....has a chip on their shoulder..... |
You are making sweeping generalizations woogexx. Her cousin and those other guys might be involved in current relationships and don't want you chatting them up. Just as you pursue guys you perceive to be cute, you may not be attractive to them. If you want guys who are down to earth then make that factor your dating criterion instead of bemoaning the existence of people who lack good looks. | | | |
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05-12-2008
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#22 (permalink)
| | | Dream on, Bozo! Quote:
Originally Posted by E-man Us Cali guys are all Ambercrombie models on our off time. My life is too much like The Hills for me to come off my pedastal and shake anybody's hand. Duh  | | | | |
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05-12-2008
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#23 (permalink)
| | | You are totally full of shit! Since when is extending your hand for a polite shake a request for a date or sex? It used to be called having good manners.
Even if the other guy is in a relationship, what is the harm in him at least being polite? Maybe if the atmosphere were a little more relaxed in gay bars they would be more fun. What's wrong with just being friendly and social? That's why these guys are so uptight -- they assume it's always about fucking! Quote:
Originally Posted by dreamer20 You are making sweeping generalizations woogexx. Her cousin and those other guys might be involved in current relationships and don't want you chatting them up. Just as you pursue guys you perceive to be cute, you may not be attractive to them. If you want guys who are down to earth then make that factor your dating criterion instead of bemoaning the existence of people who lack good looks. | | | | |
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05-12-2008
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#24 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by RedBoy2 Dream on, Bozo! | Quote:
Originally Posted by E-man Us Cali guys are all Ambercrombie models on our off time. My life is too much like The Hills for me to come off my pedastal and shake anybody's hand. Duh  | I got it, E-man, but I don't think RedBoy did.
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#25 (permalink)
| | | okay DC DEEP; that's totally fair. I thought I might come off as a dumbass if he was indeed being sarcastic, but it's not clear to me that he was.
My apologies E-man, if that was the case. Quote:
Originally Posted by DC_DEEP \
I got it, E-man, but I don't think RedBoy did.
Or at least I hope I got it. | Originally Posted by RedBoy2 http://www.lpsg.org/images36/buttons/viewpost.gif Dream on, Bozo!
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Originally Posted by E-man http://www.lpsg.org/images36/buttons/viewpost.gif Us Cali guys are all Ambercrombie models on our off time. My life is too much like The Hills for me to come off my pedastal and shake anybody's hand. Duh  | | | |
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#26 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by RedBoy2 You are totally full of shit! Since when is extending your hand for a polite shake a request for a date or sex? It used to be called having good manners.
Even if the other guy is in a relationship, what is the harm in him at least being polite? Maybe if the atmosphere were a little more relaxed in gay bars they would be more fun. What's wrong with just being friendly and social? That's why these guys are so uptight -- they assume it's always about fucking! | Well, you and dreamer were both right in these posts. A handshake during introductions is indeed good manners. And the atmosphere could indeed use a bit of chillin'. But dreamer made a good point: judging from the story in the OP, and the way in which it was presented, it did sound like the OP was wanting to make some moves. I'm just curious; if the 21-year-old cousin did look like the Hunchback, how much differently would the scene have played out?
The first and last lines tell a lot that's not expressed in words: "I seem to be the most down to earth gay guy I know. And I don't look like the hunchback of norte dame either.
<...> It just seems any gay guy thats even relatively cute.....has a chip on their shoulder...." | | | |
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05-12-2008
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#27 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by woogexx Alright well that is by far not the only thing he did. I tried to talk to him a couple times after that and he just kinda nodded, looked at me like I was speaking alien....I dunno...But trust me I didnt come to the conclusion that he was a douche JUST from the hand thing. | Well, I can tell you from that that was not an uncommon experience...especially in California.
There's a whole ideal that's being passed around that says that it's okay to be a straight bitch of a man because that's what people expect out of a gay, but of course we know that that's not true. The way he acted was just because he's been allowed to act like that for some time and if enough people check him on his behaviour, he'll definitely think about the way he interacts with others.
Now, to your question.
There are alot of down to earth gay men who are attractive, but you won't find them where stereotypical gay men hang out.
Gay bars?-No.
Gay Clubs?-No.
Gay Bar/Clubs?-Again, no.
Mostly, the down-to-earth gays don't hang out where you'd expect them to because for the most part, they're more interested in meeting another down to earth person...so they go places where other down-to-earth people go.
Bookstores?-Maybe
Live events?-Sure
A bar?-...no. I said no to that already.
A park?-Unless they're cruising the park, yes.
It's almost as if the more down to earth guys aren't interested in meeting other guys who only share the fact that they're gay and attractive in common. They'd much rather be noticed for their personality or their character than what they look like. So you'll see them somewhere where the head matters more. | | | |
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05-12-2008
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#28 (permalink)
| | | Here comes another way too broad generalization, but frequently cute gay guys who are downright rude and inconsiderate of others in social settings have virtually nothing else positive going in their lives. No education, no decent job, no real friends, no meaningful relationship, nada, except for looks.
We all run into a few of these guys--yes, even very cute guys do--but IMHO the vast majority of gays are just fairly normal people who treat others as they would want to be treated. | | | |
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05-12-2008
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#29 (permalink)
| | Banned | From my experience, gay men seem to be more shallow when it comes to looks, more than women could ever be about the way a man looks. It seems to be all about appearance with the few gay men I have met. I do not claim to be a knock down beauty BUT, what attracts me to a guy is intelligence, good sense of humor, and being masculine. Yes there has to be some physical attraction but my god its not all there. I dont know, maybe I am just fucking wierd. | | | |
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05-12-2008
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#30 (permalink)
| | | I exist... or at least I think I do? | | | |
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