05-12-2008
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Originally Posted by njqt466 No, you ninny. The unstated until now; but commonly held belief is that America is far too racist to ever have a black President. Therefore any black person elected to office can expect to be assasinated. If Obama wins the nomination the best thing he can do to ensure he survives his term is to appoint Bill Richardson. If he has a white vice president there will more than likely be an attempt made on his life. It doesn't matter to the narrow-minded racists who the white person is, just that it's a white person. | Chris Rock jokes about the same thing in his stand up routines. He says that he wouldn't want to be the first Black president. He'd rather be the second one because the first one would be... shot. Kinda sad in some ways to believe this, but I think everyone has this sick feeling in the back of their minds. | | | |
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05-12-2008
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Originally Posted by StapledShut Hey, I was just talking about people like you. Speak of the devil, and somebody will say something incredibly fucking stupid. | You are the incredibly fucking stupid one if you don't think that this is seriously possible. | | | |
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05-12-2008
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| | | It's possible for any President to get assassinated. Just because he's African American honestly won't make any difference. The racist would-be assassins are no smarter than any others who have ever tried and failed. Thinking he's more likely to get assassinated because of his race is a huge insult to White House Security. | | | |
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05-12-2008
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| | | [quote=StapledShut;1475022]It's possible for any President to get assassinated. Quote: | Just because he's African American honestly won't make any difference. | Yes, it will. The fact you believe otherwise tells me you live in a utopian bubble. I'm black, trust me racism is alive and well in America. Obama has been under the protection of the secret service for over a year because of death threats he received when he announced he was running. Map of US Hate Groups Hate Watch for the Record Quote: | The racist would-be assassins are no smarter than any others who have ever tried and failed. | Who said racists were smart? Intelligence has nothing to do with it. Desire to eliminate a perceived threat to their way of life combined with excellent marksmanship are all it would take. Quote: | Thinking he's more likely to get assassinated because of his race is a huge insult to White House Security. | That's your main complaint? You think that myself and others are insulting the skills of White House Security. That is so NOT the issue. | | | |
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05-12-2008
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Originally Posted by VinylBoy Chris Rock jokes about the same thing in his stand up routines. He says that he wouldn't want to be the first Black president. He'd rather be the second one because the first one would be... shot. Kinda sad in some ways to believe this, but I think everyone has this sick feeling in the back of their minds. | The Secret Service/Homeland Security would have to be foolish to not think it a real possibility. No matter how far the US has come as a whole we can be sure not everyone in the US has come along as well. | | | |
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05-12-2008
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| | | Honestly, the abilities of White House Security are what it comes down to. Think how many people hate Bush. I mean really hate him. You don't think there have been countless attempts at his life? Sure, there will probably be more people trying or more people who want to try with Obama in office. I'm not denying that, nor am I denying that there are still racists in this country. I live in the south for god's sake. But the fact that more people will want to doesn't mean there's any better of a chance for success, especially since a very slight few who talk about it will actually have the cajones to try.
And yes, intelligence has quite a bit to do with it. We're long past the days when all you need to penetrate the President's security is a room with a view and a sniper rifle. | | | |
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05-12-2008
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Originally Posted by StapledShut The best way to put her in her place is for him to just keep dodging bullets the way he is. More and more people are starting to realize that she's crazy. She's like John Kerry on crystal meth.
Hell, before I left Tennessee, the uberfeminist Hillarites at my work had gotten a lot less vocal about her candidacy. Of course, they only conceded to the idea of her being Obama's VP because "it'd just take one bullet to take that nigger out, then she'd be in charge." But still, if that's the kind of following she has, it's just even more evidence that she's batshit crazy. | Put her in her place???? What place is that? | | | |
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05-12-2008
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| | | That's a figure of speech. And if you read beyond that first sentence, you'd see what I meant by it. She changes her tune every other day, and Obama just kind of rolls with it. Because of that, people are starting to realize that she's crazy and more concerned with herself than with her party. It's all politics and no government. | | | |
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05-12-2008
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Originally Posted by boynextdoorkpt Put her in her place???? What place is that? | The loser's circle. Or the recycle bin, along with the rest of yesterday's news. | | | |
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05-12-2008
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Originally Posted by VinylBoy Chris Rock jokes about the same thing in his stand up routines. He says that he wouldn't want to be the first Black president. He'd rather be the second one because the first one would be... shot. Kinda sad in some ways to believe this, but I think everyone has this sick feeling in the back of their minds. | It was Dave Chapelle | | | |
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05-13-2008
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Originally Posted by jacknapier It was Dave Chapelle | Bingo.
Rock's bit, in reference to Colin Powell being suggested as Bob Dole's running mate, was that we'll never, ever see a black candidate for vice president...at least not while the president is white. Because some black guy would just kill the president. | | | |
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05-13-2008
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| | | njqt466 has a valid point. Long ago, when Colin Powell was being courted to run his wife told an interviewer that she was vehemently opposed to the idea because she feared for the safety of her husband and children.
I think what will sink Obama and cause McCain to win will be the ability of the right wing to portray him as a Muslim and Arab. I've received several e-mail messages from people I consider to be fairly intelligent and they are falling for this crap! They go on to say he will not salute our flag nor will he swear on the Bible. Fundamentalist Christian churches are quietly spreading this message to their flock every week. It seems to be working | | | |
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05-13-2008
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Originally Posted by StapledShut Honestly, the abilities of White House Security are what it comes down to. Think how many people hate Bush. I mean really hate him. You don't think there have been countless attempts at his life? | This interests me, because it has always seemed to me that Bush was safer than anybody who was ever in office. I never heard about any serious attempts on his life, but it also seemed weird that it never seemed possible, that maybe he had twice the security of any previous president. I never thought about it with Bill Clinton either, though. People hating Bush is now everywhere, but it never seemed to translate into into assassination attempts. Maybe I missed all these, and would be interested to know if anybody heard of any serious rumours of such in the last 8 years. Maybe part of the security is to even suppress rumours, I don't know. This White House and all its members just seemed so ironclad, no matter what and they therefore got away with almost anything, more than Nixon or anybody else. Oh yeah, there was a helicopter into the White House, that comes back now, and that madman who was out front, but not maybe for 5 years. Of course, the PA plane was, I think, supposed to aim for the White House, 9/11. I don't know how security and presidential security policy may or may not have changed. thanks. | | | |
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05-13-2008
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Originally Posted by becominghorse ... Maybe I missed all these, and would be interested to know if anybody heard of any serious rumours of such in the last 8 years ... | You probably already know this but there was an attempted assassination in May 2005, although it wasn't in the continental US. A would be assassin threw a hand grenade while GW was giving a speech in Tbilisi. Apparently it fell within about 60 feet of the podium but failed to explode. | | | |
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05-13-2008
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Originally Posted by dong20 You probably already know this but there was an attempted assassination in May 2005, although it wasn't in the continental US. A would be assassin threw a hand grenade while GW was giving a speech in Tbilisi. Apparently it fell within about 60 feet of the podium but failed to explode. | I was in Baku, I swear. | | | |
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