Autocircumcision

To those who call circumcision "mutilation", do you consider tattooing to be mutilation as well? Both are permanent. I knew one guy who was hilariously against anti-circumcision because it was supposedly mutilation and all but his body was COVERED in tattoos. People call him Shrek because he's all green.

What's the difference?

The idiot swears that if something never happened to him, it hasn't happened to anyone else.

What does it matter if it's someone being repulsed by the sight of a foreskin or someone being gassed in an oven?

They're both events that have happened to people.

[quote=The Greek Dude;1478553]The fact that you're an employee of a company which profits off of foreskin restoration gives you a HUGE conflict of interest.

Your bang on the money right there

Please do not cut that perfect cock, its great and leave it be.

enjoy your skin and love that you still have it.

One's a sexual preference, and the other was the Holocaust. This has absolutely no relevance to the topic, and is unadulterated sensationalism.

Okay. . .my grandmother once had a few beers and embarrassed herself in front of everyone at a party. Many years later, she had a heart attack and died. They're both events that happened to her.

^^ Foreskin (even restored foreskin) feels REALLY good ^^

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Originally Posted by The Greek Dude The fact that you're an employee of a company which profits off of foreskin restoration gives you a HUGE conflict of interest.

You're right. It's just something my kids have to deal with. If we succeed at ending genital mutilation, there will be no foreskin devices empire for them to inherit.

Your dentist advises you to brush to avoid cavities, yet is the same person who profits if you need a cavity filled. It's the same deal. Ignore his/her advice at your peril.

-Ron

Wow, that's kind silly.

Are you suggesting it would be OK to tattoo an infant?

Were your friend's tattoos acquired as an adult choice?

Of course risky surgery to amputate over half an infant's sensual nerve endings plus skin that would protect the glans and mucosa - growing to about 15 square inches in the adult - is mutilation.

Getting a tattoo is disfigurement, but if it's an informed adult choice, who cares?

-Ron

It's not silly at all.

Try to keep your hatred of your parents out of it for a moment and think about it.

How hypocritical is it of someone to bitch and moan about being circumcised (something they consider mutilation) when they've got an arm or entire body full of tattooss (which is also permanent alteration of the body)?

Here's the answer: IT'S VERY HYPOCRITICAL!

Some of the loudest people here who are against circumcision actually have tattoos as evidenced by the photos in their galleries (if we're to believe the photos are of them and not stolen from some website). And I'm like WTF?

Retracted,

I don't think its a fair analogy. There is a critical difference i think that has been missed. Tattooing a child is almost universal seen in western culture as unacceptable. You would never do it because the child has no choice.

I think this is the critical difference. I have no problem with circumcision as an adult. Individuals should have the right to make there own decisions. In a lot of ways, the cut cock is a lot hotter. But, i don't think that overrides the issue that a lot of people had no choice. I think people should be allowed to make a decision when they are old enough about there cocks, just like tattoos. Both ways, it is permanent. I really don't see the problem with that. What is so bad about letting people make there own decisions for themselves?

He didn't mention his parents. That was rather dastardly of you but, unfortunately, consistent.You're comparing apples to oranges: infant circumcision to adult tattooing. I know Ron well enough [via off-site forums] to state: he doesn't oppose adult circ's. He would advise against an adult circ. but allow it to be the individual's option.

Summary:

Infant circ: oppose
Infant tattooing: oppose
Adult circ: individual option
Adult tattooing: individual option

GET IT???Please post links to said galleries.

Wow, I certainly hope that the NOCIRC movement is as effective as the War on Drugs was at ending marijuana use and drug trafficking, or the Civil Rights Movement is at stopping racism in America (especially the south). A vocal minority (especially one with a poorly-designed website and a product to sell) does NOT equal "the real world."

People are still getting high, people are still racist (even if they hide it) and people are still going to circumcise their sons. Do you know how I know this? Because the young couples i've known have gotten their son(s) circumcised, even when the father was intact.

$20 buys a lot of understanding.

There's no such a thing as "NOCIRC movement". The NOCIRC organization is merely of one many anti-RIC groups.Are you conflating websites? It appears you're referring to two separate sites: NOCIRC, which [to my knowledge] doesn't sell F/R devices, and TLC-Tugger which obviously does.

As for the "real world," take a look at the NHDS long-term trend.

Could try to get your misinformation right?

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To Phil: Good one! You caught me completely off guard.

Then those who rant and rave about being circumcised, aren't ranting and raving because they think they've been mutilated but rather because they didn't get to have a say in it.

If that's their argument, fine. Even though they come off like a spoiled brat in doing so.

But when they come on here and scream mutilation and tell every cut guy here how ugly his cock is and how he's ruined for life (even though they have a cut cock themselves) then that's going too far. And it's hypocritical if they're crying mutilation when they've got tattoos all over their bodies. Or piercings.

Who's "screaming mutilation" and telling "every cut guy" he's "ruined for life"? Name them!