Informal Democrat Poll

care to rephrase that?

don't believe that's what you meant

AMEN SISTER! lol Well I think you mean that you don't care who the dems put up for nomintation, you're voting against Republicans

ARGH! What is so ironic about Rev. Wright is that he is a pastor in an OVERWHELMINGLY WHITE denomination. The United Church of Christ is one of the MOST liberal and progressive denominations around. In fact, alot of modern Evangelicals and conservative Christians hardly even consider the UCC Christian because we are too liberal. We were the first denomination to ordain a woman. We were the first to ordain openly gay men and lesbians. We support gay marriage on a national level. We hold public views against the occupation of Iraq. Most modern Christians hate us because we speak out for social justice and the inclusion of minorities and those who have been oppressed. The inside joke is that UCC really stands for Unitarians Considering Christ because we are so liberal and non-dogmatic. Our largest congregation is Trinity in Chicago (Obama and Wright's church). Our second largest congregation is an all gay church in Dallas.

Wright has not always been wise about HOW he speaks his truth (and sometimes silence is golden), but I wish people would stop trying to portray Obama's church as bigoted, homophobic, or racist. he belongs to the a predominanly white denomination that gets crapped on all the time because we stand up FOR gays and lesbians and against racism.

Not that what Wright says has ANYthing to do with this election anayways. Last time I checked Obama was running for president, not his pastor.

exactly! i voted for clinton in the primaries and she won my state (california, yeah! yeah!). but even if she loses the democratic canidacy to obama, i'd still voting democrat and obama will still be getting my vote.

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If you have an internet connection and can read, saying that you don't know what his plans are is no one's fault but your own. It's understandable to say that his stump speeches don't have enough substance, but his campaign certainly has as much as anyone else's.

My mistake - I should not have assumed that you would vote for McCain instead. I still disagree with your choice, but I concede to your point nevertheless.

Good on ya for finding that link to check your facts. Yes, it's ticked up a bit, but we've a long way to go to reach "high".

They're to blame for plenty of domestic issues, too.

Did the Bush admin fluff things up a bit? Probably, however Congress had access to plenty of intelligence. You'd better go back and look at some of the speeches made to Congress by Kerry and Clinton in particular, my friend. Hindsight is always 20/20 with these clowns, although I must give McCain credit for admitting he's been wrong-headed on some issues.

I am not sure that the Republican's ability to hate is such a good thing. One the one hand, the fact that Democrats welcome and support a variety of opinions and views is a positive thing. On the other hand, it has also meant that we fail to come together as easily as the Republicans, who walk in lockstep and have little toleration for dissent. But keep in mind that we are in the middle of a heated primary. The Republicans were VERY split about McCain and Bush in 2000 also, with alot of McCain supporters saying they would not vote for Bush. In the end, they did end up supporting Bush, however. We are not in the general election yet and you have to take these polls of Hillary and Obama supporters with a grain of salt.

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Originally Posted by sargon20 Policy wise Hillary/Obama are at polar ends to McCain. So if it's Hillary or nothing then one must ask is it about the issues/policies at all? Or is it about celebrity; the shallowest of reasons to vote for someone.

I agree with you here. The policies of Hillary and Obama are more similar than different. My own issues with Hillary stem not from her policies, but the negative campaign she has been running. I don't believe she has acted ethically in that regard, or in the best interest of the Democratics. However, I will vote for her in the general election if it came to that BECAUSE of her policies as opposed to the policies of McSame, and because the next president will be choosing at least 2, if not more, Supreme Court Justices. Voting for McSame is simply handing our Supreme Court over to the Right Wing.

It's a shame that all we will have a choice to vote for in reality will be Hillary(UGHHH) or Obama(Puhleeze) and McCain (ZZZZZZZZZZZZZ) Wish there were more viable parties/nominees to vote for. Guess I will write in a name in protest to the choices: Generalissimo Francisco Franco -I figure a dead Spanish dictator is better than those running !!!

I don't care if it's a farm animal as the Democratic candidate, I will vote for it over any republican right now.
Barack Obama had the decency and guts to vote agaisnt the war from the beginning, so based on that alone he has my vote.

EXACTLY.

If 80% of the country says the country is 'on the wrong track' and the track we have been on is Republican and McCain virtually endorses every major Republican/Bush policy how the fuck can you vote for him? It's already going to take a generation to undo the disastrous Bush/Cheney years. The Reign of Error has to end.

It's unfair to say that they are totally similar...however there are more comparisons.

Bush says something wrong because he's dumb, Hillary just lies to you.
Bush utilized scare tactics to obtain votes, Hillary...does the exact same thing?

Yeah. That's (one of the reasons) why Obama gets my vote.

I agree with you there, but your question should honestly be the other way around. Obama is leading in everything except "pledged" superdelegates, and he's not "losing" by a lot in that category.

If it's Obama or nothing, then does one care about the issues/policies or are they simply voting for Hillary out of celebrity?

Santa Clause will get my vote.

I thought the latest news release had him finally ahead in superdelegates?