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| well gee no one seems lightening-quick in defending these behaviors when it applies to loved ones. where'd everybody go?? i thought all this was okay?? how come you get so silent in your defenses when family members are brought into the mix?? where's all my opposition?? | ......i don't wanna have to eat lettuce. those stupid bags of spring mix PISS ME OFF..... i know you've taken to wearing your father's hand-me-down anger, but i wish that you wouldn't it's a few sizes too big and everyone can see it doesn't fit you, makes you look silly, hangs loose in all the wrong places, even if it does match your skin color..... | |
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| I did defend it but you've decided to ignore that.
Perversion is a social construct. It's a moral state deemed to exist when a society believes certain sexual desires and behaviors are unacceptable to the members of the society and those members believe they have authority to stand in moral judgment of other members of that society.
I hope it's not lost on you that many people here in your own society believe you are perverted and are just as shocked and morally outraged that people like you are allowed in public and not locked-up or even put to death. | "The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." -Bertrand Russell | |
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Originally Posted by jason_els I did defend it but you've decided to ignore that.
Perversion is a social construct. It's a moral state deemed to exist when a society believes certain sexual desires and behaviors are unacceptable to the members of the society and those members believe they have authority to stand in moral judgment of other members of that society.
I hope it's not lost on you that many people here in your own society believe you are perverted and are just as shocked and morally outraged that people like you are allowed in public and not locked-up or even put to death. | once again, you've said nothing about your family members. you admit to defending it, but make no correlations to what would happen if these behaviors were inflicted upon your loved ones. guess it's like saying it's okay that they're starving in 3rd world countries cuz my family is well-fed. it's almost laughable that you guys argue against me something that you wouldn't accept in your own lives and with those close to you. | ......i don't wanna have to eat lettuce. those stupid bags of spring mix PISS ME OFF..... i know you've taken to wearing your father's hand-me-down anger, but i wish that you wouldn't it's a few sizes too big and everyone can see it doesn't fit you, makes you look silly, hangs loose in all the wrong places, even if it does match your skin color..... | |
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Originally Posted by jason_els Yeah, they [i.e. my family members] likely would be upset but it doesn't make the photographs illegal in and of themselves. What might be illegal is promoting the images for commercial purposes which is not the case here. | Quote:
Originally Posted by jason_els I would be likely angered by somebody taking a picture of my sisters or mother knowing they would use that picture for erotic stimulation. Doesn't make it illegal though and, frankly, all three women can take care of themselves well enough. I doubt any of them would be truly bothered by it. |
Uh, yeah I did. | "The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." -Bertrand Russell | |
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| okay, than i urge, i dare you to go to anyone's front yard, stand on the sidewalk, and videotape their genitilia as they wash their car or cut their grass or play with the dog. see what kinda reaction you get. there are plenty of things that are morally and basically wrong that aren't covered by a law. PLEASE come back and share the results. if nobody cares cuz it's your right to use that camera. | ......i don't wanna have to eat lettuce. those stupid bags of spring mix PISS ME OFF..... i know you've taken to wearing your father's hand-me-down anger, but i wish that you wouldn't it's a few sizes too big and everyone can see it doesn't fit you, makes you look silly, hangs loose in all the wrong places, even if it does match your skin color..... | |
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Originally Posted by marleyisalegend okay, than i urge, i dare you to go to anyone's front yard, stand on the sidewalk, and videotape their genitilia as they wash their car or cut their grass or play with the dog. see what kinda reaction you get. there are plenty of things that are morally and basically wrong that aren't covered by a law. PLEASE come back and share the results. if nobody cares cuz it's your right to use that camera. | I don't own a videocamera and we don't have sidewalks here. Short of that, I doubt anyone could know I'm photographing their genitals. They'll just see me taking pictures. Beyond all that, I'm not someone who gets off on that sort of thing and while it may be legal, I think it's very rude.
So no. Like bear hunting or beating my wife on the courthouse steps on a Sunday, just because it's legal doesn't mean I want to do it. | "The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." -Bertrand Russell | |
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Originally Posted by marleyisalegend ONCE AGAIN, no one who is arguing against me has said that they wouldn't mind if it was their loved one being taped sitting on the porch or their child being filmed at soccer practice. any one who's arguing AGAINST what i'm saying, go to the beach and start filming, zero in on men's crotches and women's breasts and see if everyone says "it's okay, i'm in public so i expect this. i may not have worded my initial post perfectly and without flaw, but more people are focusing on THAT than the real issue at hand, one that they readily defend until i suggest bringing a family member into the mix. | I am not sure what you want, but I would not care one bit if someone photographed my daughter playing soccer, my mother coming out of the house, or any of my family members in public. If they are dressed decently and are comfortable with what they chose to wear, who would care if someone photographed them. You are welcome to photograph my son mowing the lawn any time you want. Even if he takes his shirt off. It is not indecent, and he should not feel embarassed. You can photograph us at the beach if you want. My family is not ashamed of what they wear to the beach. My family members have nothing to be ashamed of. They are not going to be embarassed. And none of their friends would think less of them. And you can post the photos on the internet. Any decent person will only see a cute girl playing soccer, a young man mowing the lawn, a family enjoying the day at the beach. I don't really care what some pervert thinks. It is him that has twisted something out of this whole thing.
None of this is offensive to me. Does that shock you? I don't get what I should be upset about. When my kids were playing soccer, you could shoot any pictures of them you want. They were quite adorable, but not very sexual, sorry.
And you should be ashamed of yourself for labeling this thread gay pervert. You owe us all an apology. Quite frankly I find that more offensive than any of your worries about photographing my family. | | | |
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cheeseygarcia is | There are a lot of perverts out there so yeah there are gay perverts. I just dont think that gay men (or black women) are the cleanest people in the world, but that was just what I was raised to think | | | |
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Originally Posted by cheeseygarcia I just dont think that gay men (or black women) are the cleanest people in the world, but that was just what I was raised to think | I guess it will never stop being shocking to me that someone could think this, let alone write this so openly and not feel any shame. | | | |
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Originally Posted by cheeseygarcia There are a lot of perverts out there | This is very true. Can you even begin to count how many men have molested their daughters, nieces, etc? People don't think about it very much, but if you were to sit for just 5 minutes and think about how many sick things are being done to helpless and innocent people all over the world right now, you would undoubtedly hate the human race. |
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Originally Posted by HyperHulk I guess it will never stop being shocking to me that someone could think this, let alone write this so openly and not feel any shame. | Like I'm the first person to write it. Look at the data and you'll see that gay men and black women account for the majority of people with HIV. Viruses have to do with being clean, remember the black plague back in the 14th century. It wiped out 1/4 of the population, but if it wouldve broken out today, when people bathe regularly, it mightve killed 8 people. Bath houses and ghetto crack infested street corners are the breeding grounds for disease, and its too bad that 2 specific groups of people had to fall victim to that. | | | |
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Originally Posted by cheeseygarcia Like I'm the first person to write it. Look at the data and you'll see that gay men and black women account for the majority of people with HIV. Viruses have to do with being clean, remember the black plague back in the 14th century. It wiped out 1/4 of the population, but if it wouldve broken out today, when people bathe regularly, it mightve killed 8 people. Bath houses and ghetto crack infested street corners are the breeding grounds for disease, and its too bad that 2 specific groups of people had to fall victim to that. | You would be the first person I've ever read that has so wantonly exposed his prejudices and ignorance. Congratulations for you. You're too remarkably unintelligent and lazy in both your research and commitment to challenge your beliefs and grow as a human being for me to waste too much energy on educating you. If your parenting, schooling and google/wiki has failed you so miserably there is nothing much I can add to help you overcome your startling stupidity. Nevertheless, there are more straight (heterosexuals) in the world with HIV than gay. That's a fact. HIV is a disease that is spread through blood primarily, it has little to do with hygiene. The majority of African-American women do not hang out on ghetto crack infested street corners and most bathhouses in the US have been closed for years.
I'm amazed that you've managed to turn on a computer, coordinate using the keyboard, find this website and yet you can't educate yourself on something that's been part of the society's consciousness for over 20 years. Take comfort in knowing though that I would gladly choose the company and friendship of an HIV positive crack infested street walking African-American transgendered woman over you any day of the week, because that person would still have more class in her dirty fingernail than you have in your entire being. Again, congratulations. What you possess is rare and it's a gift for all of us to know how very weak, dumb and thoughtless some people can be. The fight for human dignity carries on--please enjoy the show while sitting on the sidelines, with your tiny head in the sand. | | | |
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Originally Posted by cheeseygarcia Like I'm the first person to write it. Look at the data and you'll see that gay men and black women account for the majority of people with HIV. Viruses have to do with being clean, remember the black plague back in the 14th century. It wiped out 1/4 of the population, but if it wouldve broken out today, when people bathe regularly, it mightve killed 8 people. Bath houses and ghetto crack infested street corners are the breeding grounds for disease, and its too bad that 2 specific groups of people had to fall victim to that. | I am sure you must just be a troll. No one could be so stupid to think that AIDS or the black plague was caused by people not bathing. Especially since gay men are knows for paying special attention to their grooming habits. You could not possibly be that stupid even if you are a straight guy from Ohio could you? The question is are you a total idiot or just a bigot? Humm maybe both. | | | |
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Originally Posted by auncut10in I am sure you must just be a troll. No one could be so stupid to think that AIDS or the black plague was caused by people not bathing. Especially since gay men are knows for paying special attention to their grooming habits. You could not possibly be that stupid even if you are a straight guy from Ohio could you? The question is are you a total idiot or just a bigot? Humm maybe both. | don't forget the KKK still marches in ohio so maybe he was confused by a pamphlet he received from them. and isn't he right anyway?? gay men and black women spread aids, mexicans cut grass, and jews make the best lawyers, right?? | ......i don't wanna have to eat lettuce. those stupid bags of spring mix PISS ME OFF..... i know you've taken to wearing your father's hand-me-down anger, but i wish that you wouldn't it's a few sizes too big and everyone can see it doesn't fit you, makes you look silly, hangs loose in all the wrong places, even if it does match your skin color..... | |
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