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Originally Posted by dreamer20 marleyisalegend why can't you accept what jason_els has said? If you are going to streak in the public domain do not be surprised when your image appears on the internet. | i'm not talking about streaking, i'm asking whats the difference between a guy sneaking shots up a girl's dress and a guy sneaking shots of a man's penis because his running shorts flew up for 2 seconds. when its 100+ degree whether will i still have to wear sweatpants when i jog?? | ......i don't wanna have to eat lettuce. those stupid bags of spring mix PISS ME OFF..... i know you've taken to wearing your father's hand-me-down anger, but i wish that you wouldn't it's a few sizes too big and everyone can see it doesn't fit you, makes you look silly, hangs loose in all the wrong places, even if it does match your skin color..... | |
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Originally Posted by marleyisalegend i'm not talking about streaking, i'm asking whats the difference between a guy sneaking shots up a girl's dress and a guy sneaking shots of a man's penis because his running shorts flew up for 2 seconds. when its 100+ degree whether will i still have to wear sweatpants when i jog?? | Assuming for a moment that your jogging route is lined every day with people just waiting for your shorts to fly up and expose your penis, you are an adult, not a juvenile. While it is not illegal to photograph naked juveniles, it is illegal to do so for prurient purposes, which it could be well-argued, taking pictures up a 12 year old girl's skirt is. There is no such prohibition as regards adults.
If your shorts fly up and expose your penis while you're running in public view, you're guilty of indecent exposure in many places. If someone photographs you doing so then you have no protections because you are responsible for keeping your genitals contained within garments when you are in public view.
I suggest wearing a jock strap at the least. They're light and will prevent inadvertent floppery. | "The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." -Bertrand Russell | |
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Originally Posted by jason_els Assuming for a moment that your jogging route is lined every day with people just waiting for your shorts to fly up and expose your penis, you are an adult, not a juvenile. While it is not illegal to photograph naked juveniles, it is illegal to do so for prurient purposes, which it could be well-argued, taking pictures up a 12 year old girl's skirt is. There is no such prohibition as regards adults.
If your shorts fly up and expose your penis while you're running in public view, you're guilty of indecent exposure in many places. If someone photographs you doing so then you have no protections because you are responsible for keeping your genitals contained within garments when you are in public view.
I suggest wearing a jock strap at the least. They're light and will prevent inadvertent floppery. | okay don't let my bad example misconstrue my point. i guess this is a case of indivdual rights overlapping one another. you're certainly free to take a picture of a woman's boobs in public but, though that doesn't infringe on any specific right of hers, doesn't it atleast cause an issue with morality? IMO looking is a stretch because it can called human nature, but whats natural about taking a picture and posting on a website called candidpics or something of that nature?? do morals only come into play when there's a window in between the photographer and the subject. because the instant the woman steps into her home, the photographer is a peeping tom. how is something NOT acceptable inside a building, but completely acceptable outside of one?? | ......i don't wanna have to eat lettuce. those stupid bags of spring mix PISS ME OFF..... i know you've taken to wearing your father's hand-me-down anger, but i wish that you wouldn't it's a few sizes too big and everyone can see it doesn't fit you, makes you look silly, hangs loose in all the wrong places, even if it does match your skin color..... | |
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Originally Posted by marleyisalegend okay don't let my bad example misconstrue my point. i guess this is a case of indivdual rights overlapping one another. you're certainly free to take a picture of a woman's boobs in public but, though that doesn't infringe on any specific right of hers, doesn't it atleast cause an issue with morality? IMO looking is a stretch because it can called human nature, but whats natural about taking a picture and posting on a website called candidpics or something of that nature?? do morals only come into play when there's a window in between the photographer and the subject. because the instant the woman steps into her home, the photographer is a peeping tom. how is something NOT acceptable inside a building, but completely acceptable outside of one?? | In your home you have an expectation of privacy. Out in public you should have no such expectations. Of all of the millions of people in America, you got one guy doing shameful but not illegal things. This is not a huge issue that needs some kind of recourse.
That said, if a picture of me is taken in public is used on a web page in a harmful way, I do have the right to sue for damages because I am not a public figure. But damages have to be proven. I doubt if a court is interested in me whining because someone showed a picture of my bulge. BIG DEAL. How many people see my bulge on the street every day anyway?
Marley, why do you even have issues with this stuff? And why do you think this is a gay issue? You should have figured out by now from reading the threads on this site that as many straight guys look at bulges and guys dicks in the locker room etc as gay guys. I find it pretty offensive to call this thread "gay perverts". | | | |
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Originally Posted by auncut10in In your home you have an expectation of privacy. Out in public you should have no such expectations. Of all of the millions of people in America, you got one guy doing shameful but not illegal things. This is not a huge issue that needs some kind of recourse.
That said, if a picture of me is taken in public is used on a web page in a harmful way, I do have the right to sue for damages because I am not a public figure. But damages have to be proven. I doubt if a court is interested in me whining because someone showed a picture of my bulge. BIG DEAL. How many people see my bulge on the street every day anyway?
Marley, why do you even have issues with this stuff? And why do you think this is a gay issue? You should have figured out by now from reading the threads on this site that as many straight guys look at bulges and guys dicks in the locker room etc as gay guys. I find it pretty offensive to call this thread "gay perverts". | | | | |
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yngjock20 is | Marley-Marl...
This is an absolutely genius thread. It's so true that lately specifically, we've been inundated with people thinking it's cool to violate someones privacy for their own pleasures.
While in a fantasy world, it would be damn hot to be able to just grab someone's junk (unsolicited) and they'd respond with a "thanks, baby!" in reality, that's just plain wrong no matter who it is.
We have upskirts and bathroom cams and jerking in public...there's just too many people doing the wrong thing "because it feels good."
There's such a thing as going too far. | C'mon! It's the year Two-thousand and Eight!?!?! WTF is going on here! | |
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Originally Posted by auncut10in In your home you have an expectation of privacy. Out in public you should have no such expectations. Of all of the millions of people in America, you got one guy doing shameful but not illegal things. This is not a huge issue that needs some kind of recourse.
That said, if a picture of me is taken in public is used on a web page in a harmful way, I do have the right to sue for damages because I am not a public figure. But damages have to be proven. I doubt if a court is interested in me whining because someone showed a picture of my bulge. BIG DEAL. How many people see my bulge on the street every day anyway?
Marley, why do you even have issues with this stuff? And why do you think this is a gay issue? You should have figured out by now from reading the threads on this site that as many straight guys look at bulges and guys dicks in the locker room etc as gay guys. I find it pretty offensive to call this thread "gay perverts". | if by issues you mean notice than yes. if by issues you mean do i hide in my closet in the fetal position crying about it?? no. as far as the gay thing, that's a matter of interpretation. in my humble opinion, gay encompasses all forms of male attraction even if it goes no further than looking at pictures of men on the web. i came up in a time that was much more black and white, this is all new to me the "i'm not gay i just like sucking cocks" or "i'm not gay but big dicks turn me on".
ps, you still haven't answered my question: would you feel better about somebody taking pictures of your mother in public as long as they don't post them on the web?? please answer that question. | ......i don't wanna have to eat lettuce. those stupid bags of spring mix PISS ME OFF..... i know you've taken to wearing your father's hand-me-down anger, but i wish that you wouldn't it's a few sizes too big and everyone can see it doesn't fit you, makes you look silly, hangs loose in all the wrong places, even if it does match your skin color..... | |
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victorgrimes is | BTW - I am completely offended by the title of this blog - a pervert is a pervert - gay straight or other is not the issue - the issue is compromising someone else's integrity or privacy. If someone is flashing, maybe.....Someone clothed - unless it is a $3000 suit, you'd better get permission. | | | |
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Originally Posted by jason_els Be aware there is no, "case." The man was violating no law and was released without charge because he was recording people who were already visible in general public.
I understand this may be shocking in North Carolina, but you know women are free to walk around topless in New York and I don't think anybody really cares. In the grand scheme of everything that can happen in the city, this is a gnat on an elephant's ass. | Yeah, I remember when that law went into effect many years ago. The only women who took advantage of it were women nobody wanted to see naked anyway. | Don't wonder why people go crazy, wonder why they don't.~ Meredith Grey: Grey's Anatomy Without Integrity There is No Love I'm not sure I want popular opinion on my side -- I've noticed those with the most opinions often have the fewest facts. - Bethania McKenstry | |
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Originally Posted by jason_els Be aware there is no, "case." The man was violating no law and was released without charge because he was recording people who were already visible in general public.
I understand this may be shocking in North Carolina, but you know women are free to walk around topless in New York and I don't think anybody really cares. In the grand scheme of everything that can happen in the city, this is a gnat on an elephant's ass. |
Also, more importantly, there was nocase against this guy b/c he also wasn't making any money off these cam episodes. He was just posting them on YouTube. He's since pulled them down.
Also alot of that stuff you see on the internet of guys getting groped or fondled while asleep are total set-ups. You can tell by watching them. That's no harm done as every guy has had that fantasy as a kid. Touching the HS jock etc.....
It is really an issue if it's unwelcomed and the person cannot resist the urge to do these things to other guys w/o their ok. That is really perverted. | | | |
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Originally Posted by Monster This thread is extremely offensive but, par for the course | I agree and I'm just as offended as victorgrimes. While my buds and I and a few other guys that I met here on the forum jokingly refer to ourselves as perverts and sluts. It's a completely different matter to label a stranger or someone whom you don't know as such. |
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Originally Posted by marleyisalegend okay don't let my bad example misconstrue my point. i guess this is a case of indivdual rights overlapping one another. you're certainly free to take a picture of a woman's boobs in public but, though that doesn't infringe on any specific right of hers, doesn't it atleast cause an issue with morality? IMO looking is a stretch because it can called human nature, but whats natural about taking a picture and posting on a website called candidpics or something of that nature?? do morals only come into play when there's a window in between the photographer and the subject. because the instant the woman steps into her home, the photographer is a peeping tom. how is something NOT acceptable inside a building, but completely acceptable outside of one?? | Legally there are no overlapping rights. The photographer would have to make himself a nuisance to the person, essentially becoming a stalker, for there to be any legal issues. Random pictures in a single incident don't qualify because the law acknowledges that there is no expectation of privacy in public spaces. Even when someone is at home, that person has to make reasonably sure that the curtains and doors are closed if there is to be an expectation of privacy. Georgia held a couple guilty for the corruption of a minor and both were given the status of sex offenders because they had sex in their own home in their own bedroom and a kid next door managed to walk up to their window and see what they were doing between a slit in the curtain! The judge ruled that they did not take sufficient precaution to create a private situation and, therefore, were having sex in public view and that's illegal under Georgia law.
I'm concerned when you say, "looking is a stretch," because it really isn't. I have the idea something has happened to you to give you this kind of mindset. Were you raised very conservatively regarding sex? Were you taught sexual desire was dirty? | "The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." -Bertrand Russell | |
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Originally Posted by njqt466 Yeah, I remember when that law went into effect many years ago. The only women who took advantage of it were women nobody wanted to see naked anyway. | UGH! I know, right?
Why is it that all the ugly people want to be naked all the time. It's like if anyone thought you were hot, you wouldn't have to strap a pork chop to your face to get some attention!*
*Entire post was written in pure jest. | C'mon! It's the year Two-thousand and Eight!?!?! WTF is going on here! | |
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Originally Posted by jason_els I'm concerned when you say, "looking is a stretch," because it really isn't. I have the idea something has happened to you to give you this kind of mindset. Were you raised very conservatively regarding sex? Were you taught sexual desire was dirty? | no but since this is a small world, i may one day find that my child is being molested by a friend, and that the friend is bragging about it on this site. to make you guys understand this thread better, i beg anybody to answer these questions:
-how would you feel about somebody taking sexual pictures of one of your family members in public??
-how would you feel if you find out your son (who "likes girls) comes home and says the friend who's house he spent a night at, was fondling him in his sleep
-your boyfriend/girlfriend is out in public and a complete stranger rubbed their breast/genitilia purposefully
obviously with famine and droughts plaguing the world there are more pressing issues, but if that's what you wanna talk about, go to another thread, i wrote this thread in lieu of the article i read.
i don't want everybody wearing burkas in public and not looking at each other, but seriously, it's okay to touch people in their sleep?? to take pictures of people's crotches and boobs as long as its in public??
(noone has yet explained why this is okay in public, but as soon as there's a wall between you it's wrong)
i like how me wanting a little bit of privacy and not wanting to be molested makes me prude. | ......i don't wanna have to eat lettuce. those stupid bags of spring mix PISS ME OFF..... i know you've taken to wearing your father's hand-me-down anger, but i wish that you wouldn't it's a few sizes too big and everyone can see it doesn't fit you, makes you look silly, hangs loose in all the wrong places, even if it does match your skin color..... | |
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