05-08-2008
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#16 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Monster I knew this would turn ugly. | what gave it away?? the only thing STD could've done to be more offensive would be to call black people a bunch of knuckle-dragging, english-slaughtering, out-of-wedlock baby-producing, drug-selling, can't-read, no good porch monkeys | | | |
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05-08-2008
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so std. what about those white guys in teh ass to mouth films. creampies. wat about white boy stop? and all that gag throat puke fucking vomiting shit?
every man of every race has had a hand in it. not exclusively blacks. lets not forget, the black guys are usually the actor. the DIRECTOR, as in teh one controlling teh action, is usually a white guy. so maybe you should ask this about white producers, not black pornstars | | | |
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05-08-2008
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Originally Posted by mista geechee the DIRECTOR, as in teh one controlling teh action, is usually a white guy. so maybe you should ask this about white producers, not black pornstars | He kinda did... Quote:
Originally Posted by STD Are black guys generally abusive in the bedroom or is this just a stereotyping on the part of the film directors? | See?
I think the OP was a little roughly handled and maybe not fully thought out. I don't think its intention was nearly offensive as some people have found it. It's a shame people didn't stop and ask for clarification before going in to full out attack mode. Just as it is a shame that the OP has chosen to respond to the offense in a reactionary manner rather than restating in clearer terms his intent. | | | |
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05-08-2008
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Originally Posted by ManlyBanisters He kinda did...
I think the OP was a little roughly handled and maybe not fully thought out. I don't think its intention was nearly offensive as some people have found it. It's a shame people didn't stop and ask for clarification before going in to full out attack mode. Just as it is a shame that the OP has chosen to respond to the offense in a reactionary manner rather than restating in clearer terms his intent. | how much clearly can you perpetuate a negative stereotype against black men?? intention becomes irrelevant when your entire idealism is based on misguided notions that single out a single race for poor behavior that EVERY race exhibits. | | | |
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05-08-2008
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Originally Posted by marleyisalegend how much clearly can you perpetuate a negative stereotype against black men?? intention becomes irrelevant when your entire idealism is based on misguided notions that single out a single race for poor behavior that EVERY race exhibits. | I understand some of his terminology and assumptions are emotive - but look through the OP again. Quote:
Originally Posted by STD Prompted My Mad Rouge's "Sluts and WhoreS" thread.
For those who watch mainstream porn, do you agree that whenever it's black guys and white girls, the girls are generally abused and called bitches/sluts/whores etc., but when it's white dudes with black girls, the scene is generally more loveable and respectfull? He's asking a question here? Granted it is clear that that's his perceived experience from the porn he has seen - but he is not stating it as a fact.
Agreed, it's not always the case and I'm sure some can provide links to the opposite conclusion but, in mainstream porn, I've noticed this. That's where he says it is his perception - maybe we should be asking him why he notices it only from the black male performers or why he ends up watching this kind of porn?
And the way black (and to a lesser degree white) guys treat Asian/Oriental girls borders on racial abuse at times. I don't agree with 'lesser degree' comment here - I agree with the 'boarders on racial abuse' bit - but I don't see more black perpetators than white in the porn I watch.
Are black guys generally abusive in the bedroom or is this just a stereotyping on the part of the film directors? Another question - is the behaviour coming from the actors or are they just directed to act that way? A reasonable question and I would guess it is far more the latter than the former.
Or are there no Sydney Poitiers left in the world? | Silly comment to end on, but harmless. I do disagree that white male porn actors don't get abusive with black actresses. I'm not going off searching for links, it is far too late here, but I have seen plenty of porn with white men fucking black women in a demeaning and abusive way. | | | |
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05-08-2008
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#21 (permalink)
| | | maybe you're patient than me manlyb. i'm not going to deconstruct every stereotypical post and try to figure out why the OP is so misguided, even if they guise it in the form of questions. why would you entertain an idea that only once race is capable of this atrocious behavior?? you could pull any random 15 pimply-faced prepubescent teen and ask them "do all members of a race exhibit the same behavior" and they'll look at you like you're crazy because it's simply silly and rude to imply that any particular bad behavior is only executed by one race. the idea of such is one of the birthchilds of racism (all black people are.... all german people are..... all chinese women are.....) asking it in the form of a question doesn't make it any less mindless and thoughtless than stating it as a fact. | | | |
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05-08-2008
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#22 (permalink)
| | | Ugly is as ugly does.
How surprising that NJ and Marls are upset (the most racist two on the board - of any race - I suspect).
Why am I not surprised to NOT hear either say " You know what? You're right. Darned if I noticed it before, but the black guys in porn ARE pretty derogatory to their white opposites"?
Marley, stop your ranting dude, you're beginning to sound like NJ (or am I stereotyping you guys?). LOL. | | | |
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05-08-2008
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Originally Posted by STD Ugly is as ugly does.
How surprising that NJ and Marls are upset (the most racist two on the board - of any race - I suspect).
Why am I not surprised to NOT hear either say " You know what? You're right. Darned if I noticed it before, but the black guys in porn ARE pretty derogatory to their white opposites"?
Marley, stop your ranting dude, you're beginning to sound like NJ (or am I stereotyping you guys?). LOL. | how am i racist?? **grabs popcorn** | | | |
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05-08-2008
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Originally Posted by marleyisalegend how am i racist?? **grabs popcorn** | try reactionary.
Try jumping on anyone ever that ever suggested anything that you believed, whether misguidedly or nay, to be treading on the toes of a black person.
You're so boring.
I'd have thought about the original original post and either denied it or decried it as being a foul or I might have said "You know what, maybe there's sumfin' in this" as there obviously is - you only need to watch mainstream porn to see that.
Your race is portrayed as being sexually abusive to whites. I never said you were such, but the porn industry portrays you as such. Don't shoot the messenger. | | | |
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05-08-2008
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| | | OK! Now I am going to get in it! What on earth? I will start out saying that I dont watch porn so I cant speak to it. But I think first and foremost, Porn is created to cater to fantasy . So I would think it is more disturbing that people watch this and actually think this might be real. I think if you want to assume that black men fall into the Big Black Buck stereotype you will. I am happy to say that even though I know there are brutal men and WOMEN of every race, I have been blessed not to come in contact with Black men who behave in this fashion. | | | |
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05-08-2008
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#26 (permalink)
| | Banned | Can I have some of that popcorn, please? | | | |
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05-08-2008
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Originally Posted by naughty OK! Now I am going to get in it! What on earth? I will start out saying that I dont watch porn so I cant speak to it. But I think first and foremost, Porn is created to cater to fantasy . So I would think it is more disturbing that people watch this and actually think this might be real. I think if you want to assume that black men fall into the Big Black Buck stereotype you will. I am happy to say that even though I know there are brutal men and WOMEN of every race, I have been blessed not to come in contact with Black men who behave in this fashion. | i didn't even think about that expect. who develops opinions of races based on FUCKING PORN!!! since when is PORN an accurate depiction of reality? if you think life immitates porn you're sadly mistaken. tell me, where else do you get your info on black people?? rap videos?? sitcoms?? day-time trash tv?? | | | |
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05-08-2008
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#29 (permalink)
| | | Mainstream porn is one place where racial stereotypes are not only accepted, our stupidity for being turned on by anything that shows a cock getting pounded into a hole brings the industry billions.
They must laugh at the boardroom meetings when they come up with ideas. Imagine the absurd questions during the interview process to both parties in involved? These people make so much money off of people who don't bat an eye at.
I find free porn, i wont throw money at that industry that thinks we are all so stupid that we can see past the obvious.
I take pride in being a classy lady, now if only that kind of porn were out there people like me and NJQT wouldnt be watching gay porn. | | | |
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05-09-2008
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Originally Posted by STD For those who watch mainstream porn, do you agree that whenever it's black guys and white girls, the girls are generally abused and called bitches/sluts/whores etc., but when it's white dudes with black girls, the scene is generally more loveable and respectfull? | I don't agree with all your premises, but yes, the "big black poles in tiny white holes" porn is usually that way. It's a specific genre or niche of the porn industry, and caters to the "Mandingo-Complex" fetish folks. You ask about if black men are like that in real life, but honestly, have you ever seen ANY porn that realistically portrays real life? It's supposed to BE fantasy; by definition, most porn is NOT like real life. Quote:
Originally Posted by marleyisalegend what gave it away?? the only thing STD could've done to be more offensive would be to call black people a bunch of knuckle-dragging, english-slaughtering, out-of-wedlock baby-producing, drug-selling, can't-read, no good porch monkeys | I think you are over-reacting, Marley. I don't think that was the OP's intention. He made a valid comment about a certain type of porn, but made the mistake of wondering if art imitates life. It usually does not. I've seen the kind of porn he's asking about, and honestly, it makes my skin crawl. He could just as well have asked "do all librarians become cum-sucking sluts when they take off their glasses?" or "do all white women have 78 DDDDD tits, and wear crotchless panties, fishnet stockings, and 6-inch spike heels to bed?" Quote:
Originally Posted by marleyisalegend how much clearly can you perpetuate a negative stereotype against black men?? intention becomes irrelevant when your entire idealism is based on misguided notions that single out a single race for poor behavior that EVERY race exhibits. | Again, I think he was asking about the Mandingo-porn... | | | |
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