"Sluts" and "Whores"

Yeah women are far crueler to each other than any man could be to a woman. That's why the feminist movement was a colossal failure.

And MrGood has a really good point. I would never want to do porn, I think it would completely ruin the pleasures of sex. Turning something wonderful that I always want into a job that I'm sure to get tired of, and get some sort of psychological issue from.

Javyn, go ahead and pass on being a gentleman so you can get some pussy. I dont know what feminist colony you grew up in but it sounds to me like you've got some real misogyny sprouting out of you.

I've never met a man who justifies mistreating a woman because a woman has mistreated her. I don't associate with bitches, I dont act like a bitch. My husband doesnt deserve to have the lifetime membership on a bitch. But, you sir, have earned your way into a living hell with one because of that attitude.

I have zero tolerance for people like that in my life....they don't deserve my attention or energy.

This is so true. The need to degrade women seems to come up often in porn - and I haven't even seen that much of it. I'm not a prude and I know role-playing is fun but I think there can be a carry-over effect in real life, on both men AND women.

Sexual behavior is not learned from parents, unlike almost all other behaviors. Young men whose first visual information about sex comes from porn (which is prolly most guys, from Playboy in the 1950s through internet porn today) have to take some of that perspective into their own lives. Young women are then going out with these guys in high school and college and, in some cases, assuming what the guys want them to do is typical sexual interaction... and it's not.

I am in my early 30s but have younger women I work with who are the ones that made me aware of this... guys automatically expecting blowjobs at the end of a date in hs (forget that good-night kiss sh*t) and not even even offering any reciprocation sexually, wanting the girl to do a 3some or wanting to let a friend watch or video them, and accusing the girls of being uptight if they wouldn't go along. Those ideas are not lifted from porn themselves, but there seems to be a heightened sense of entitlement on the part of some of these guys that the girl is basically there to serve him sexually. I know this isn't all guys (or all girls) but I was really shocked to hear how often it occurred.

Don't get me wrong, I think porn can be hot. I just think a lot of what is made and distributed today is marketed toward the baser instincts some men have about controlling/dominating, even disrespecting women. That is not a consistent thread throughout the history of porn, but since the 1990s maybe? I think the explosion of porn via the internet maybe aided that, but will leave it to the psychologists/sociologists to figure out if there was a bigger issue going on in society that caused it.

P.S. MRouge, I thought sluts gave it away for free and whores charged for it... if that helps.

Rogue how on earth did I justify anything? Pass on being a gentleman? Have you not read the other posts I made in this thread? I think you really misread here.

Porn used to be something a man hid somewhere in his bedroom. He kept it a secret and sometimes boys would get a hold of a magazine and show their friends behind the backfence.

Now its something you cant avoid on the internet. The ante has been upped....and what was considered bizarre or disgusting has become the standard. I worry how far this can go. We can argue all we want about what is considered normal, gross or bizarre. But lets be honest here and compare 20 years ago what was mainstream and attractive to a majority of straight males and females who participated in the industry.

There is nothing new under the sun as far as sexuality is concerned but with the advent of mediums to display them for free and in seconds to whoever wants to see it- even in public libraries- is paving the way for some things society has yet to see.....

And SurferGirlCa, i couldnt have said it better myself darling.

From being well read, well educated and from actually talking to black men.

Their lives are no different in respect to the disrespect they often receive from women.

Also... If you don't realize that the popularity of rap music, in both black and white communities, reflects a male fantasy of power and dominance ( a fantasy, because it simply isn't true) then you really ought to read more and react less.


Of course you feel its backasswards... you are probably one of the women who perpetrate these kind of feelings in men.

Your posts are almost always judgmental, contrary and condemning. You carry yourself as if YOUR perspective is the one true perspective and any ideas otherwise are false.

To men... that feels like you, and people like you, are shoving YOUR singluar viewpoint down our throats.

I would be far more impressed with your commentary if it was occasionally backed up with argument, example, or pertinent analogy.

You don't explain yourself or your positions... because you dogmatically believe that anything you feel or think is de-facto right....
No discussion allowed...

Good luck with that attitude... in relationships, you are gonna need it.

You are just one person... but, then, no single raindrop feels its responsible for the flood.

This among many other entries in this thread has given me the idea that you are justifying male mistreatment of women because there is some subconscious desire they have to be treated as such?

I have never had a desire to be treated that way, there is obviously some sort of co-dependency related to women being with jerks and men being with bitches for whatever reason. Women abroud all cultures prefer their men to respect them just as much as the men want respect from their women.

As for women choosing to stay with a jerk boyfriend....the human mind will prefer the devil we know over the devil we dont know.

Yes the mores of society are a'changin'. Porn can't be completely blamed, but it's certainly a part of it. In the end though, it will be men complaining rather than women due to the eventual ED that goes hand in hand with porn addiction.

Nevertheless, I'll continue to have sex the way I want to, and continue to treat my woman like the queen she is. If anyone calls me misogynistic, or her sick for our preferences, they can go fuck themselves.

the problem with these "sluts" and "whores" is that some guys lay one or two of them and assume that all women are like that. a guy may meet one or two girls who treats him like his dick is made of heaven and serves as a 'yes-women', so he assumes that all women will fall in line accordingly. few bad apples spoils the bunch for some people

You said it yourself that you learned to be a jerk because thats how women want to be treated. You can take it back if you didn't mean it to come out that way. I read your words very simply and took them at face value. If you want to stick by what you said then don't get defensive about me noticing that you said it.

No one is saying you can't slap your girlfriend with your cock if she wants you to....i find it demeaning and porn has made it that way.

One night i was pointing out all the hoopla over ass to mouth on the internet to my husband. He had a very valid point when he said "It's just one more way to further humiliate her"

Yes I did learn to be a jerk and treated a lot of women like shit due to me being treated like shit in the beginning.

Now I'm over it, and with someone whom I love, and doesn't take advantage or steamroll over me for being "nice", which is much more natural for me to be than a jerk...being an asshole really takes work.

I also don't think the real underlying intention is to demean, but to make money. Thing about porn is, it's very easy to become desinsitized to, requiring more and more extreme stuff to get off to. So those companies have to keep upping the ante.

I also think it's a bit hypocritical to be complaining about misogyny in porn on a big cock forum. Come on, what's good for the goose is good for the gander. I'm sure many average and below hung men, as well as more prudish women can lump everyone here into the category you just created with this thread, men and women alike.

I'm referring to the target market that professional porn is interested in. I'm also lumping in that there has always been a male majority that is interested in it. And because they are the ones giving the money over to the companies by buying into it.

there is no right way to have sex. and those women that treat mens cocks like they are made of heaven are the good apples.

It is demeaning, if done in public. I've licked toes... demeaning. I loved it. demeaning is the point. It tells your S.O. that you are fucking hungry for them. It is fucking hot to slap your girl on the face with your cock, telling her to lick, not suck, and if she sucks she'll get it again, and then watccing her grab your cock and shove it down her throat.

Just like it can be hot to kiss a woman all over, trail down to her legs to her feet, expecting to work your way back up to her pussy, only to have her put her foot on your shoulder, push your back, and shove her foot in your face.

You want the pussy, and she knows it. Its not like she has a clitoris in her toes, she just wants ot see you suffer for a bit.... hot!

Couldn't it be argued that pornography has led to an increase of women who are size queens, hence demeaning and objectifying all men?