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Originally Posted by Mademoiselle Rouge You aren't watching mainstream straight porn then Or, maybe you aren't, guess we'll never know unless you want to swap collections for comparison . And you havent been around here

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Old 05-07-2008   #46 (permalink)
Kotchanski is offline

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You aren't watching mainstream straight porn then Or, maybe you aren't, guess we'll never know unless you want to swap collections for comparison. And you havent been around here as long as i've been here So this is a new account of yours then? Forgive me, I assumed since the date showed 08, that you'd recently joined. I've been here for quite some time, thanks. and i've seen tons of posts regarding males telling females how their bodies should react- squirt, orgasm from penetration alone, etc. The posts of a few morons hardly equated to real life experiences. You've had ONE experience with someone like that by your own admission, hardly equated to a major issue.

Just because i find blatant disrespect for females to be disrespectful doesn't make me out of the ordinary. You really didn't get my point did you? The whole point is that YOU find it disrespectful, and thats fine, thats how you see it, thats perfectly normal, but to suggest that because I don't find it disrespectful I'm the abnormal one isn't exactly right now is it? What I'm saying is, people view things differently, and their opinions are based on what they get from it, if one can view it and think "Oh, I'd like to be her" then to her, it clearly isn't disrespectful, making her normal, and if you view it and think "OMFG I can't believe this shit, this is disgusting" then you clearly find it disrespectful, and thats normal too.

I can tell we will get along just peachy!
We'll get along fine, you just need to stop seeing my post as an attack on your opinion, it isn't, its an attack on you suggesting that no other opinion but your own is valid.
 
Old 05-07-2008   #47 (permalink)
Mademoiselle Rouge is offline

I dont speak for every woman, i speak for a lot of women. And i look at any of the major porn hubs such as yuvutu.com, youporn.com, redtube.com, xtube.com and i check them many times a day and they have the latest published videos from mainstream porn companies as well as amateur. The titles often suggest that calling women "slut" and "whore" is going to be mainstream.

Our ideas of what we find acceptable often have to do with how we are raised. These words were used to describe a worthless meaningless person that no one would miss if she disappeared from the streets. I see we are from different parts of the world, raised in different families and married different types of men. Our sexual past has a lot to do with how we see ourself and others.

I am more aggressive sexually and i pick more sexually conservative partners because our personas meld well. It was a major insult to be called "bitch" "slut" "whore"

What used to be confined to fetish porn (which i thoroughly enjoy by the way) has been skewed into some shitty version of what was sub/dom conversation between someone who obviously enjoyed playing the counterpart to the other.

When i see the typical "frat boy" or "unkept" middle aged male paired with a stereotypical female porn actress who just happened to make it through auditions because she can take a face fuck on cam like a pro and can manage to tune out any shit given to her....

Maybe i need to find out where you are getting your porn, because obviously i don't have a clue where to find the good stuff.
 
Old 05-07-2008   #48 (permalink)
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I dont speak for every woman, i speak for a lot of women. And i look at any of the major porn hubs such as yuvutu.com, youporn.com, redtube.com, xtube.com and i check them many times a day and they have the latest published videos from mainstream porn companies as well as amateur. The titles often suggest that calling women "slut" and "whore" is going to be mainstream I'm starting to work this out now I think. I rarely even look at titles when I download since I rename everything as soon as its finished anyway, mainly because they tend to be very badly named in the first place. I'll never forget that "Hardcore gangbang" one I downloaded last month... 2 guys, a girl, and.... OMG they used a butt plug *shock* I've never been so amused in my life at the variations between one persons idea of hardcore gangbang and anothers. My husband wrote me a program to go downloading with, I just give it the url, it looks for all movie types and follows all links doing the same. Get some right shit, and stuff I'd never watch in a million years, but an hour or so sorting, and I'm good for the day.

Our ideas of what we find acceptable often have to do with how we are raised. I was raised by VERY strict parents, my mother disowned me when I told her I was bisexual. These words were used to describe a worthless meaningless person that no one would miss if she disappeared from the streets. I see we are from different parts of the world, raised in different families and married different types of men. You have no idea about my family, so I'll leave it by saying they're nothing like me, and would hate me if they knew the real me. My husband is a very kind and gentle man, nothing like me, I'm a very aggressive person in most if not all respects. Our sexual past has a lot to do with how we see ourself and others. That I agree with 100%, I've not had a very good sexual past, as some of my earlier posts explained. I am the way I am because it was my way of dealing with being raped and abused time and time again.

I am more aggressive sexually and i pick more sexually conservative partners because our personas meld well. It was a major insult to be called "bitch" "slut" "whore" From someone who didn't know me, I'd feel the same, my "friends" and husband know me well enough to know that I'll take it who they intend me to, and if thats in a negative manner, I'll make damn sure they can't have sex for at least a month.

What used to be confined to fetish porn (which i thoroughly enjoy by the way) has been skewed into some shitty version of what was sub/dom conversation between someone who obviously enjoyed playing the counterpart to the other.

When i see the typical "frat boy" or "unkept" middle aged male paired with a stereotypical female porn actress who just happened to make it through auditions because she can take a face fuck on cam like a pro and can manage to tune out any shit given to her.... I think I downloaded that one last week, I deleted it shortly after, I'll tolerate and enjoy most things, but at least want to be able to picture them hooking up in real life, I blame the kids TV.. I mean come on.. Princess Fiona and Shrek?

Maybe i need to find out where you are getting your porn, because obviously i don't have a clue where to find the good stuff.
I got a little silly at the end there, sorry about that, but seriously, what were they thinking?
 
Old 05-07-2008   #49 (permalink)
Mademoiselle Rouge is offline

Shrek and Princess Fiona is a perfect description of a lot of porn i've seen. It's been explains here time and time again about how men are threatened by the site of another man, so they like the POV porn that doesnt even show the mans face. I have to admit when i see an ugly dude in porn- even if he has a hot body- i lose all interest. Not because i cant look at an ugly man, but he's paired with some idealistic specimen of a female. It's truly insulting. Like a woman like her would look twice at a man like that in real life....only if he made a lot of money.

I don't have much respect for the women in mainstream, they are embarassing to watch- especially when they all hit the same note of "Nnnnnyeah" when getting pounded reverse cowgirl. It's so predictible.

My husband used to watch porn with me and now he has zero interest "Here comes another facial finish...."
 
Old 05-07-2008   #50 (permalink)
javyn is offline

David, you are pretty much right on. I used to be a nice guy once, until I woke up and realized that what women SAY they want and how to be treated is completely different than how they REALLY want to be treated. In other words, action speaks louder than words. Every girl will say she wants a nice guy, but they all say that while they date jerks.

Misogyny sucks certainly, but it's even more sad that it's biggest supports are in fact women.

edit: There is nothing wrong with calling someone a slut, or cock slapping, or spitting, if that's what you both are into.
 
Old 05-07-2008   #51 (permalink)
Kotchanski is offline

Hitting the same note... that reminds me of the 2 things I hate most in porn:

1. Seriously hot guy with average at best dick and she's screaming "Fuck my tight wet cunt with your huge dick" How am I meant to get off while I'm laughing so hard I'm crying?

Which leads nicely to 2. Why do they need sound at all? The fake noises are laughable, the comments make shivers go up my spine, and the least said about the music the better.

Off topic I know, but hey, I've been away a while, I'm due an offtopic rant or two
 
Old 05-07-2008   #52 (permalink)
Mademoiselle Rouge is offline

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David, you are pretty much right on. I used to be a nice guy once, until I woke up and realized that what women SAY they want and how to be treated is completely different than how they REALLY want to be treated. In other words, action speaks louder than words. Every girl will say she wants a nice guy, but they all say that while they date jerks.

Misogyny sucks certainly, but it's even more sad that it's biggest supports are in fact women.

edit: There is nothing wrong with calling someone a slut, or cock slapping, or spitting, if that's what you both are into.
Maybe my friends are like me and i certainly dont fit that stereotype. I just happened to be blessed with a gentleman who is also very attractive. I've dated not so attractive gentlemen because it was more important to me to be treated like a lady. That's something my Dad taught me and my mom showed me by choosing my dad who is much older than she is for her 2nd marriage, because he valued her.
 
Old 05-07-2008   #53 (permalink)
javyn is offline

Kotch, the worst is the running commentary by the dumbass cameraman in those bangbros videos. Completely retarded.

But anyway, yeah I enjoy some of the 'bad' porn, such as the cumfest videos, cock slapping, throat gagging, etc....and guess what, I've been with my gf over a year now and I still open every door for her and treat her better than any man has ever treated her before, that's coming from her mouth.

Our love can be sweet, passionate, or deep, or it can be completely brutal. Sometimes a mix of both. I agree with you up to a point Rouge, just don't go calling something misogynistic when it's enjoyed and encouraged by the lady.

Sure I call my woman a slut when I'm fucking her...that's the fastest way to make her cum. Naturally I don't think of her as such, then again, I don't think of any woman as a whore.
 
Old 05-07-2008   #54 (permalink)
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Kotch, the worst is the running commentary by the dumbass cameraman in those bangbros videos. Completely retarded.
I wouldn't know, I've not watched porn with the sound on for a good 5 years hehe
 
Old 05-07-2008   #55 (permalink)
Mademoiselle Rouge is offline

I also vote for taking out the Technicolor. Making everyone look bronzed and their clothing fluorescent reflects reality as much as Saved By The Bell represented highschool.
 
Old 05-07-2008   #56 (permalink)
Kotchanski is offline

Oooo I have another one while we're pulling apart porn..

Can we please please pretty please get rid of hot pink lycra clothing? It makes my eyes hurt when they switch to a new girl and she's wearing that, the bastards never take it off either
 
Old 05-07-2008   #57 (permalink)
HungDavid is offline

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David, you are pretty much right on. I used to be a nice guy once, until I woke up and realized that what women SAY they want and how to be treated is completely different than how they REALLY want to be treated. In other words, action speaks louder than words. Every girl will say she wants a nice guy, but they all say that while they date jerks.

Misogyny sucks certainly, but it's even more sad that it's biggest supports are in fact women.

edit: There is nothing wrong with calling someone a slut, or cock slapping, or spitting, if that's what you both are into.
That's right . Most woman say one thing but they USUALLY think the opposite . Guys must ignore what they said and pay attention what they do . Most say that they want nice guys but most want jerks bad boy guys . Some woman really like nice guys but I believe that they are an slim minority.
 
Old 05-07-2008   #58 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Mademoiselle Rouge View Post
Maybe my friends are like me and i certainly dont fit that stereotype. I just happened to be blessed with a gentleman who is also very attractive. I've dated not so attractive gentlemen because it was more important to me to be treated like a lady. That's something my Dad taught me and my mom showed me by choosing my dad who is much older than she is for her 2nd marriage, because he valued her.
You are like most ladies should be . In my logic people should not want to treat them badly . That's crazy and that actually says that something is really wrong with the person .
 
Old 05-07-2008   #59 (permalink)
Mademoiselle Rouge is offline

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You are like most ladies should be . In my logic people should not want to treat them badly . That's crazy and that actually says that something is really wrong with the person .
I forget sometimes what it must be like for men in the dating scene when looking at what women want from them. It can be very confusing and paradoxical at best.
 
Old 05-07-2008   #60 (permalink)
javyn is offline

It is Rouge. Thing is...jerks aren't born, they are made.
 

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