"Sluts" and "Whores"

Originally Posted by HyperHulk

But those movies can influence how some men treat, speak to and interact with women. And those women could be your sister, daughter, niece or future wife.

Just some thoughts, because it's not always as simple as putting our heads in the sand and pretending this stuff doesn't exist or doesn't do harm.

Originally Posted by Mademoiselle Rouge

It's a thread, dont like it, don't read it.

Originally Posted by frizzle

That's basically the same as saying GTA will turn people into killers. You have to be 18 to watch pornographic content and if you're not mature or sensible enough to know it's a film and acting then you never will.

Originally Posted by petergroot

BUT: don't you think the general attitude is spilling over from hard-core rap, with " Bitch, whore, " and the so-called big boyz ina hood attitude?
Maybe it is habituating younger people, and current porn is a reflection of how society is right now? And rap in it's turn is reflecting that? One messy circle.

Originally Posted by Phil Ayesho

Rap personas are a fantasy... the reality of being a black male in America, for most black males, is to suffer mistreatment and disrespect from women.

Originally Posted by Mademoiselle Rouge

What used to be considered unusual and fetish is now mainstream and you can hardly find anything that isnt hardcore or pure lack of sexually gratifying acts on the female.

Porn taught me how to masturbate and use my clitoris for pleasure. Do you think most guys are getting any technique out of these videos? There is hardly anything in them that a normal woman would find a real turn on. I'd like to know where you're drawing your definition of normal from. As far as I'm concerned, I'm as normal as the next person, and there is a lot I find very pleasing in them. Being excluded in oral sex Actually, I have around 500gb of porn, about 400gb of that would fall into the genre being discussed in one way or another, I can't think of a single movie in the collection that doesn't involve oral for the woman at some point, maybe you've been unlucky? or am I just lucky?, manual stimulation Same, maybe the problem is that we're watching different ones. , lack of lubrication, hard pounding in positions that can be very painful with a large penis and the endings usually consisting of facials Yeah, ok, you have a point about the facials, and I don't like them all that much, I have tits to aim for if needed, and they're much easier to clean off after.

I've been fortunate to only have one guy try to treat me like a porn star. If its only been one guy, then what makes you believe its having the major effect you believe it to be having? I've only had guys treat me like that because I've asked them to, had one try anal once without asking, but he'd known me a very long time, and knew he'd get away with it. I quickly showered and left his house never to talk to him again. It's one thing in the confounds of a relationship to try different things out and see what works for you, but you honestly cant go into sex expecting a woman to respond to you if you treat her like a cum dumpster at your disposal. Well that kinda goes without saying, I'm still wondering where all these terrible men are that are assuming this?

There is already so much men don't understand about the female body and how it works. Thats why we have other women and dildos isn't it? (thought I'd try a lighter tone for a bit) How many guys here try to tell us that we can all orgasm vaginally and squirt and enjoy anal sex? None in my experience, apart from when kids sneak on and manage to post before the mods catch em (hugs to all mods btw, loves ya all) I see these posts often and i have no doubt many of them are getting their ideas from the fakeness in porn.

Why is there not a huge market for Play Girl or strip clubs with all male dancers? I'd always assumed that was because naked women look good, while naked men look like they have the left overs from sunday lunch stuck randomly on them? (I don't mean to offend any guys here, but you have to admit, that cocks in general aren't the prettiest of things soft) Because women won't pay money to have a guy pretend for 5 minutes that he finds her attractive. Any semi-intelligent male i know in my personal life finds strip clubs to be insulting to their manhood because they don't like someone faking it with them....yet in porn they can be fooled into thinking women are orgasming all the time in them. Think you've just nailed it there, porn in fantasy, and for many guys, the fantasy of a woman they can make cum time and time again with very little effort is a wonderful thing, doesn't mean they're going to expect it when they get back to their missus though They get angry when their women don't orgasm from their penis alone or quickly enough for them.

We are setting up a standard here, how we treat people in intimate acts does say a lot about our character. It's one thing to put on a role for a short time, but how many of these guys in porn could care less about making her feel good?

I tried anal things with my husband and he didnt enjoy me stimulating that area at all. I respected that it just wasnt pleasurable. I got nothing out of it if he didn't. So much of our relationship in the bedroom is feeding off of the other persons enjoyment. Maybe thats too normal for today.