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Blu-ray sales slow despite of lack of competition

Originally Posted by Phil Ayesho Great...so now you can waste your time at a much higher definition, and cost. My biggest reluctance is that I have 100 channels and NOTHING WORTH A SHIT TO WATCH.

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Old 05-07-2008   #46 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Phil Ayesho View Post
Great...so now you can waste your time at a much higher definition,

and cost.



My biggest reluctance is that I have 100 channels and NOTHING WORTH A SHIT TO WATCH.

The vast majority of movies are worthless crap.
The vast majority of television shows are worthless crap...


And, really... does being able to see the pores in Jon Stewart's skin make his jokes any funnier?

Does being able to see the fake explosions and over the top ridiculous stunts make the blockbusters any less shitty?

I got to spend , what, $2500 and pay another $40 per month to have even more vivid drivel piped into my eyes?
yea you got a point. but i dont find jon stewart entertaining. i mainly watch national geographic, and discovery hd. and mojo hd. and sports in HD. everything else IS garbage. the movies are prett much the same everynight. bu ti cant resist superbowls/world series/nba finals/college sports in hi-def. especially with surround sound
 
Old 05-07-2008   #47 (permalink)
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yes, that it a reason too, but the biggest reason is because it has no competition. it doesn't cost anywhere near $400 to produce blu-ray players,, so production price isn't going to effect the selling price all that much. watch, as soon as a solid competitor steps up to the plate, the price will cut in half.
There already was a solid competitor and they got their ass kicked.
 
Old 05-07-2008   #48 (permalink)
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There already was a solid competitor and they got their ass kicked.
ya, and before that competitor came into play, blu-ray's price was at $800...
 
Old 05-07-2008   #49 (permalink)
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ya, and before that competitor came into play, blu-ray's price was at $800...
Hey in war the spoils of victory always go to the winner. What else would you expect?

Early technology is always more expensive. What new is cheap?
 
Old 05-07-2008   #50 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by homelessmandril View Post
Are my eyes fucked up or something? I really can't tell the difference between these things......black and white, yes, plasma and LCD, possibly, but has anyone even done a study into what maximum level of detail the human eye can pick up?
Almost every video that you'd see on a new HD-capable TV is either not HD at all or has too much noise to really look good; the latter is often true of big store displays that split the signal between fifty TVs on a wall.

When you see a Blu-Ray player playing a Blu-Ray disc and plugged directly into a capable TV, I gotta admit, it's really fucking nice. Over-the-air HDTV signals look remarkable, too, even better than standard-def DVD (HDTVs will receive analog and HD broadcasts side-by-side, which makes quick comparisons really easy).

My only complaint is that I can still see weird separation-like effects when an object is moving at a decent speed across the field of view. I haven't figured out if it's due to film being digitally transfered or something, but I get distracted when I see it in an otherwise spectacularly crisp shot.
 
Old 05-07-2008   #51 (permalink)
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Im buying a DLP!! uses 2 million hinge-mounted microscopic mirrors and colored light wheel.
 
Old 05-08-2008   #52 (permalink)
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My only complaint is that I can still see weird separation-like effects when an object is moving at a decent speed across the field of view. I haven't figured out if it's due to film being digitally transfered or something, but I get distracted when I see it in an otherwise spectacularly crisp shot.
What you are seeing is Switching lag.

Plasmas and LCDs are rated by their switching speed... which refers to the speed with which any color triad can change color ( color require 3 pixels to display)

Under most circumstances, most sets do okay... but when objects must move rapidly across the screen, especially in situations of high contrast, you will see a noticeable trail or, with faster sets, an 'edge doubling" on the moving object.

THis is a limitation of the set you bought and can not be improved without buying a set with a faster switching time.

Significantly faster sets are significantly more expensive.
 
Old 05-08-2008   #53 (permalink)
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I haven't yet bought an HDTV of my own... buuut, I'm still not looking forward to the drawbacks and what I see as unfulfilled promises (particularly switching lag, since that description matches what I've seen on other peoples' sets).
 
Old 05-08-2008   #54 (permalink)
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I haven't yet bought an HDTV of my own... buuut, I'm still not looking forward to the drawbacks and what I see as unfulfilled promises (particularly switching lag, since that description matches what I've seen on other peoples' sets).

i wouldnt be too down about it. HD is awesome if you do it right. most people either have the wrong cables, have their cable boxes set to the wrong output display, have a shitty tv, or don't really know what HD is supposed to look like and have the picture setting all astrue. what do you mean by switching lag? are you talking about how long it takes to switch between HD and SD? cause that can usually be solved by adjusting the cable box
 
Old 05-08-2008   #55 (permalink)
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If anyone buys an HDTV for actual HD television broadcasts they may as well save their money by buying a 720P model. Hi-Def TV is only at 720P. Now, if you are a movie buff and want to best picture available today you need to get a 1080P tele and a good Blu-ray player. I bought a Bravia and a PS3 and fucking love them. I just wish that players and movies would drop in price so that more people would jump on board.

An electronics retailer told me that there is a planned "re-launch" of Blu-ray coming this summer, and that he was told that costs/prices will be dropping accordingly. Fingers crossed.
 
Old 05-08-2008   #56 (permalink)
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what do you mean by switching lag? are you talking about how long it takes to switch between HD and SD? cause that can usually be solved by adjusting the cable box
Whatever it is, it's what happens when a moving object looks like... well, it looks like a badly-aligned Jenga stack or something like that. It's like if you took a loaf of sliced bread and stood it on end, except that instead of leaving all the slices aligned, you offset every other one.

Objects on-screen look awesome if they're stationary, but to me, this funky movement distortion looks worse than the usual blur seen on analog TV.
 
Old 05-08-2008   #57 (permalink)
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ok i know what youre talking about. that happens when you have a bad cable leading to your tv or cable box. i had that problem for awhile, then the cable company came out, gave me one of their nice cables, and the problem has been solved ever since
 
Old 05-11-2008   #58 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Mr. Snakey View Post
The royal screwing the Music and Movie industry have given the consumer over the last 20 years is coming back to haunt them. They are taking it right up the ass without grease. I love it.
So true.
O/T, but....am I the only one who remembers when CD's came out in 1983? We jumped from $3.99 LP's & tapes to $15.99 CD's. The excuse the record companies gave then was that there were only two plants pressing CD's (1 in Germany & 1 in Japan), and the supply couldn't meet the demand - hence the price jump. We were promised that CD's would lower to the price of LP's and tapes as soon as more CD manufacturing plants were operational. ...So the new plants opened - the supply met the demand - and... I'm still waiting for those CD prices to drop 25 years later! They never did! ...And look at the predicament their own greed has forced the record companies into today (and PS - the greedy bastids deserve it!)!
I often wonder how these record companies can possibly justify $15.99 - $18.99 CD's with 40 min. of audio-only, while big box retailers are selling DVD's with hours of (usually 5.1 channel) audio and video for under $10 in many cases? After all, the press cost of a 5" plastic coated aluminum disc is the same, regardless of whether it's CD, DVD, or Blu-ray.
The studios, on the other hand, rolled out DVD in a far smarter manner. Once DVD became mass manufactured, player prices & many (tho not all) disc prices became an affordable step up from VHS for home video. People could actually build affordable home video collections that were superior to the more expensive VHS.
...But now it sadly looks like, with Blu-ray, the studios are going the screw-the-consumer route the record companies did with CD. I hope I'm wrong. I hope the players size & prices, and the disc prices will drop as the technology builds steam.
 
Old 05-11-2008   #59 (permalink)
marleyisalegend is offline

oh my god i feel like i'm in the twilight zone
 
Old 05-11-2008   #60 (permalink)
b.c. is offline

As i said before (in a similar thread) i have no plans on rushing right out to by them (blu-ray players and discs) anytime soon.

Like most consumers, i'd have to see that the format is going to stick around, that there will be a lot of playable material available, and most importantly, that costs (for players and discs) come down to something that the average consumer won't mind paying for.
 

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