What is it about incest?

People tend to confuse the word "pedophilia" with "incest." In many cultures around the world, it's common for cousins, or sometimes even brothers and sisters to marry one another. Royal families have done this to keep the fortune in the same family, so that no one could "marry them for their money." I personally would never want to have sex with, or marry anybody who shares the same DNA as me, but that's just my opinion.

you do realize that trying to talk about incest in a non-abusive aspect is like going to mcdonald's and asking for something that won't clog your arteries. there is probably a few handfuls of successful, healthy incestuous couples, however most people focus on the MILLIONS of people who incestuous behavior has victimized so, just a warning, most of the responses in this thread are going to read like mine, madame's, etc...

If you consider their singular deaths any sort of karmic balance for the uncounted tens or hundreds of thousandsm perhaps millions, of lives they've destroyed or caused to end...

Who? Someone's trying to convert someone? I missed that, what are you talking about?

That's pretty pitiful. No offense to you personally, but to the site as a whole.

McDonald's sells bottled water. Argument done. I win. =]

I'm not trying to argue or change anyone's point of view, I'm only trying to strip away the hidden adjectives that seem to constantly attach themselves to incest, such as 'abusive', 'underage', or 'involuntary' and discuss the 'pure' if you will, topic of incest itself.

I don't feel anyone is out of their right to present any arguments at all, this is an open discussion on an open forum, so no warning is needed for my safety, but thanks, honestly, for having a fair and reasoned discussion about it.

a simple answer: its not natural?

Why is it pitiful.

This guy is trying to get us to condone incest. An act which psychologically and genetically screws people up. I don't see why it's pitiful for the vast majority of people to agree against it.

you DO know that they deep-fry their water, right?? you lose.

*falls down the steps*

If I narrow my mind enough, I can see it that way also. However, I'm able think of the word 'incest' without flooding my mind with thoughts of rape, pedophilia, non-consentual acts, etc..

Ever heard of Twincest? Like fisting, it's one of those niche gay fetishes gaining "power" via the internet. Twin brothers having sex has nothing to do with fucking around with genes. While disgusting, it doesn't fit into your view very well.

And something unfounded, as I don't care to look into it. Did the Osmonds rape each other?

noone's being narrow-minded, it sounds more like we're just offering our own experiences with incest. if mine was one of sweaty, passionate, sensual love-making and fetishism then my posts would be written differently

You're right. Since you think its ok and someone from the gay community does it- we shouldnt have any opinion on it.

Sorry for wasting so much time in this thread so people like you could come up with complete and utter disgusting things such as "Twincest" as an argument.

Next time i get horny, i'll see about my brother taking his fist to my vagina. I've been doing it all wrong having any objections to it.

Based on what? I suppose you could say that based on the fact that nature has added the high rate of resultant mutation in offspring of such unions to be a good argument, and I think that it is. That there may be the closest to a valid argument that it's genetic or that nature does not want us to commit incest. I'm not going to argue against that, but we can prevent the result of having offspring now, so that leaves us with the argument, why? Why do we drink milk after we're grown? We're the only species that does it, and the only one that drinks other species milk for that matter, that's pretty unnatural too...

Are you talking about me? I'm not "trying to get" people to "condone" anything. I'm asking a question, and trying to keep the issues separated. I'm not asking about sexual abuse or pedophilia, I'm asking about incest in the absence of those things. How is asking a question about that "trying to get" people to do anything but answer the question? I fail to see how you come up with that conclusion.

Damn, thought I could sneak that one by...

You and Mad spoke of being abused. You then said that most of the people responding would have the same views on incest. Would that mean most of the people have been abused? If so, then Haagen has been abused too?

I guess I don't feel as strongly about the subject(s) discussed on LPSG as I have no history of being sexually abused.

Oh yes, I've totally written that it's ok, despite me saying it's disgusting in every one of my posts. Like I said, narrow-minded. It doesn't fit exactly the way you want to hear it, so you must twist it. Or is that just a woman's trait?