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Originally Posted by Chuck Hena 22,000 this morning but they are saying there's still 50,000 officially missing. | I feel like the harbinger of doom, but I just read an estimate suggesting 100,000 dead. 100,000 people killed by one outburst of nature. U.S. envoy: Myanmar deaths may top 100,000 - CNN.com | The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth. ~ Niels Bohr | |
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Originally Posted by bbristow how unfortunate.. why is this happening to the world! | This has always happened and it always will.
What matters is what we do about it to help our fellow human beings now we can. |
Is it paradoxical or ironic that the good reasons to live are also our good reasons to die?
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Originally Posted by Drifterwood Mrs. Bush has offered a conditional $250,000. That's less than $0.001 cents per US citizen. I hope they get enough support to tell her where to stick it. | Ditto. This offer from a government who refuse to take care of their own a la Hurricane Katrina. I cannot believe she had the nerve to criticise another country knowing how poorly we take care of our own. |
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boynextdoorkpt is | This is truly a tragedy beyond my comprehension, the latest news on CNN is that up to 50,000 are now dead. I feel that aid should be given, but I think that we have many people in our own country that are going without food, being financially pressured due to our bad ecnonomy that we need to be helping. I recently saw a piece on NBC Nightly news, showing a retired couple on a fixed income, that has had to move out of their apartment and live in their van, and there are days that they cannot eat, much less get their prescriptions renewed. I think we should help other countries, but my god, we have our own citizens that need help, we must do something! | | |
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Drifterwood is | I don't wish to be uncharitable to Mrs. Bush, but I do wonder what effect she had on the already nervy Junta of Myanmar. Aid is humanitarian, not political. She made it political from day one.
And yes, aid to Katrina victims was immediately available from professional foreign bodies, notably the Swedes and Canadians, yet took more than four days to be cleared by the authorities. Great. |
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Originally Posted by bbristow how unfortunate.. why is this happening to the world! | This is business as usual, unfortunately, been happening for thousands and thousands of years. Course Al Gore, who want even enter a scientific debate, just laid claim that global warming is the cause for this cyclone. What a shameless hack. | | |
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mercurialbliss is | How it happens doesn't matter nearly as much as what people do about it. |
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Originally Posted by Drifterwood I don't wish to be uncharitable to Mrs. Bush, but I do wonder what effect she had on the already nervy Junta of Myanmar. Aid is humanitarian, not political. She made it political from day one.
And yes, aid to Katrina victims was immediately available from professional foreign bodies, notably the Swedes and Canadians, yet took more than four days to be cleared by the authorities. Great. | I agree, but Myanmar doesn't appear to be above petty bureaucracy in a crisis itself, if the reports of 5 day visa delays for UN aid workers is true that is.
Didn't Yangon ask for help? ... It seems a curious way to help your people. Rather like trying to verify the fireman's ID when your house is on fire. | The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth. ~ Niels Bohr | |
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Originally Posted by mercurialbliss Ditto. This offer from a government who refuse to take care of their own a la Hurricane Katrina. I cannot believe she had the nerve to criticise another country knowing how poorly we take care of our own. | Thusly, why we should take care of ourselves beforehand... | | |
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Originally Posted by faceking Thusly, why we should take care of ourselves beforehand... | In the context of (possibly) 100,000 dead in a country the US doesn't like - exactly what does the above mean? | The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth. ~ Niels Bohr | |
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Originally Posted by faceking Thusly, why we should take care of ourselves beforehand... | I don't ever like this argument.
If every American or Canadian or British domestic problem had to be solved before the U.S., Canada or Britain could validly help people in other countries, then the rich countries would never be helping the poor ones.
Because there would always be unmet domestic problems.
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Originally Posted by dong20 In the context of (possibly) 100,000 dead in a country the US doesn't like - exactly what does the above mean? | This was in response to some Hurricane Katrina anti-Bush rant... when the City of New Orleans knew full well... hell, I remember emailing a few folks the night before (here in San Francisco, which is not hurricane land) that this was going to be very very very bad. And that's in my novice hurricane knowledge. Yet da Mayor Nagin didn't do anything... nor the governor to evacuate beforehand, nor get the word... all we got was why didn't the Feds cleanup the mess that we helped to make worse. Then that dumb city re-elected that fool. It was the quickest excuse to dogpile on Bush, which is fine, but the most accountability should of been held with the city/state.... which knew better.
Overall, it's a socialist vs capitalistic outlook... the Fed gov't should protect and be there for disasters indeed... but I'll take any administrations handling of a crisis here in the States than 99.9% of the country's out there. Burma, is a naughty little nation... proof shown on difficulty to get aid in there, and for those trying to do, to figure out how to make sure it gets in the right hands vs the military leveraging it.... | | |
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Originally Posted by senor rubirosa I don't ever like this argument.
If every American or Canadian or British domestic problem had to be solved before the U.S., Canada or Britain could validly help people in other countries, then the rich countries would never be helping the poor ones.
Because there would always be unmet domestic problems.
Rich countries should give to poor countries just as rich individuals should give to their poorer brethern. |
No I agree... there's always priorities, and you will... never in a free nation of 350M+ ppl be able to educate, medicate, and employ everybody.
In economics, it's like the efficient frontier but swap "spending" for "risk", which I won't go into, because I know which LPSGers get it, and rest are a bunch o' horny lunkheads (that's a good thing for some of you)... a la diminishing returns. | | |
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Originally Posted by dong20 Yangon has said this event will not interfere with a referendum on constitutional reform as the latest step in a series of planned moves toward democracy planned for May 10th but that seems rather impractical in such circumstances. | Apparently not. "Though nervous voters were under orders to vote "yes" to a constitution that will enshrine a dominant role for the ruling military, it was the first real election in nearly two decades. Army-controlled MRTV ran a final Burmese-style "get the vote out" propaganda blitz featuring jaunty actresses singing "Let's go voting" and "Come along for voting" to a boppy disco beat. While the junta relentlessly focused on the poll, thousands of survivors of the cyclone that hammered Myanmar a week ago waited for food, medicine and shelter." Myanmar holds poll despite cyclone chaos | The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth. ~ Niels Bohr | |
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