What do WOMEN want?

Phil my Lovely,
This thread isn't about you, it's about "What women want"
it isn't called "What Phil wants" or even "what men want" or "what Phil wishes women wanted".
If you want to get on your soapbox about your miserable experiences with women by all means post a thread about it in the Relationships forum.

Dragonfly

Most of my experience with women is certainly not miserable.

But that does not make me blind, nor deaf... and believe it or not, men DO talk with one another about their frustrations.
I am not speaking for myself as much as I am speaking for practically every man I personally know.
Most of them love women... and most of them also have difficulties with their women.

And most of those difficulties boil down to a few core issues of treatment.


Honestly, the question was asked in hopes of finding out something that might help men meet your needs....

But when the answers posted fall into the same categories we have heard over and over... and that simply are often not true....

If women post that they want things from men that men have experience of having offered... and being castigated for offering...

well...Isn't that something women would want to know?


Is there any interest at all on the part of women who say they want a man who shares his feelings.... in hearing from men that when we try... we get in trouble for feeling what we feel?


Or is this just another example of women wanting to complain about something that they have no real interest in addressing?

Maybe... by trying to figure out a "fix" for this issue... I am just being a stupid man.

Sorry... i'll bow out.

Why are you acting like you are Everyman* and I am Everywoman? What we actually have here is two people (one male and one female) discussing feelings and relationships - not everything you say, nor all your experience, applies to all men, just as not everything I say, nor all my experience, applies to all women.

I don't react negatively to a male perspective, in this instance I'm reacting negatively to your perspective, which I feel is very negative.

I'm glad you have a good relationship with your wife and that she supports you, but that's the first time I've seen you say it - everything else you have posted here has been quite negative.

* I assume you are well read enough to know what I mean by 'Everyman'

No, you don't always get in trouble for how you feel.

How do I know this? Because I know for a fact men will share their feelings with women IF they are not badgered to death about it. I've had men (ex's included) thank me for understanding that.
The OP who asked the question "what do WOMEN want" is male, I believe. Don't act as though we conjured up this thread to bitch about men.
We don't need you to fix us. Isn't that what you've been trying to tell us about men? The same rule applies here.
If you wanted to add your two cents, that would be fine but you've decided to take this thread and tell the women what they're doing wrong whilst acting as a martyr for your gender. As you may have noticed, it didn't fly well here.

This thread seemed to spiral away from the original question. We know that most people don't want to force someone to do something they don't want to do. Maybe a better way to word the question would be...

What do girls want sexually from guys that most guys aren't willing to do?

MFM and cunnilingus come to mind, but what to the women think?

Alright, but please go slowly and be gentle with me back there.

If we are doing it doggystyle don't be afraid to spank me. More kissing, fingering, and foreplay. Not because I'm not ready for penetrative sex; but because it feels so damn good when done by the right man.

I wonder if any women know what they are doing back there. I'd like to find one that did or was patient and gentle in learning. I want to experience a prostate massage at least once in my life. I was experimented on a few times but we never found my prostate.

I think you will know exactly what to do.

You are a special kind of woman for wanting to please your man like that. Hopefully whoever that may be, realizes that and cherishes you for it.

Of course we all do but, the question from th OP was about women.