Coaches

Questions for the coaches in the site, today, in this day and time, do coaches really still shower with their high school or younger teams they coach in public schools or soccer teams? My coach has not for like 4 years since I was a freshman and he told one dude that it was because he never wanted to be accused of anything. He is the nicest man you would ever want to meet, and I just find this a total shame that coaches and teens cannot bond like they used too. Just wondered if this was just a southern thing of coaches now being naked now or a nation wide thing? As you notice on the news, most of the teachers that have sex with their students are women and have been mostly in the south.
Landon

No, that would be a little wierd.
There are showers in the office though, so I guess they can see that we are showering if we do. I don't really want to bond with any students.

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Questions for the coaches in the site, today, in this day and time, do coaches really still shower with their high school or younger teams they coach in public schools or soccer teams? *SNIP* Just wondered if this was just a southern thing of coaches now being naked now or a nation wide thing?

I doubt it's just a Southern thing. I would think it's a matter of good sense on the part of the coaches in question though. There is no reason for a coach to be in the showers with the team.

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As you notice on the news, most of the teachers that have sex with their students are women and have been mostly in the south. Landon

Yes, but that doesn't mean that male teachers are excluded from such behavior.


Exactly! I find it odd and somewhat troubling that there are students who want to bond with coaches in the shower. WTF? Just by gay porn or look at it on the net, like the rest of America.

Your coach is brilliant and your font is too large :-)

If any coach had half a brain, he/she would never put themselves at risk by showering with students. It's not a shame at all. The coach doesn't lose anything, the athletes don't lose anything. The coach can never be accused of anything improper and the athletes never have to feel uncomfortable.

Does eveyones mind equate bonding with fucking?
my god how sad

my knowledge of the subject is from the last century... way back last century.

P.E teachers and students never showered together in the UK in the first place (to my knowledge) so we havn't lost anything.

Again, it goes to the apprarant changes in climate about nudity...

when I was young no one thought anything about nudity...

now? its horrifyingly letigious.... No one dares do anything out of fear of reprisal...

Landon, if there are facilities available for the coaches to use without showering with the kids it is wise. Main reason: Avoid a false charge by a student. Pure and simple.

I can't relate to this question as much as I can about trips. Twenty five years ago, the churches required an adult to be in every room on a road trip. So an adult guy would share a bed with one of the youth and then two other youths slept in the other bed. That was standard. I always let the guys figure out the bed assignments.

Now some churches have gone completely to the other side. No adult is allowed to be in the room with the teens. So we have four seventh grade boys in a room together. The male cousnelor is sleeping soundly in the other room. Which is more likely to happen?

The Old Days with an adult in the Room: Charge of sexual improper conduct

or

The New Days with no adult in the Room: Four seventh grade boys out on the town unsupervised perhaps for several hours, possibly running into adult guys they don't know that are drunk

The pendulum will swing back the other way when there are several teen predators that watch for church groups and abduct unsuspecting teens.

Our church is in the middle. We require an adult in the room. But the adult can not sleep with a minor. Sleeping bags. three boys in a bed whatever it takes.

As far as the showering thing as in context of a church trip. I have always observed how the boys were behaving and basically did what they did. I found that causes less notice. One year the guys are taking all their clothes in the bathroom to dress. So I do that too. Another year the guys are walking around in their underwear. So I do too, But I also wear a extra long t shirt that comes down below the crotch area of the boxer briefs. I would never wear boxers on a youth trip. My legs are so thin that everything can get into view too easily Boxer briefs with the long shirt works best. I now add a sleeping shorts over my boxer briefs to sleep. It is just one more piece of clothing that separates my private area from someone else.

If the church group is at the beach or water park and there is this big dressing room, we all go in and put our swim suits on together. I usually have to get tickets ready and all so by the time all that is done, the youth are in their swim suits. I also go an change into street clothes before closing time to avoid the big rush. So many times I am not getting dressed with my youth. But I have before completely undressed and dressed when as a matter of course all of us were in there together.

The key is "as a matter of course." If an adult plans things so HE CAN SHOWER WITH THE TEENS, that is a RED FLAG. If it just happens and furthermore would be even more awkward for either the teen or the adult to excuse themselves, it is not a problem.

Again is is not about nudity. It is about sexuality. If the adult's motives are sexual. No No But Hell no to the showering together. If it is a matter of course situation, if all are comfortable with it, it isn't a problem.

I remember a high school football game that was played in pouring down rain and the temperature was below 50. The boys were soaked as if they had come out of a swimming pool. So were the coaches. All were not only wet, but very cold. And there was this one and a half hour trip back home on the bus. A lot of those boys didn't usually take showers after games, but this time everybody took a shower. There were coaches mixed in with the guys.

If there is several coaches and several boys showering together there isn't a chance of a sexual charge. On the other hand, one teen and one adult? Not a good situation.

Showering together is not a needed thing for coaches and youth directors to do for bonding to take place.

Again the key is what is the adult and or the teen's motive here. If it is to get in and get a shower and get dressed and that is all or is the teen or the adult sexually attracted to the other. It is the later case that we have to watch. We just can't let that happen if at all possible.

it really is a shame we can't just be naked without anything sexual going on

Landon, I seem to be the only one trying to answer some of your questions here but here goes.

Yes, some have. Now some consider a sexual attraction between a 16 year old and a 22 year old an act of pedophilia. It is not pedophilia is the attraction of an adult either straight or gay, to a child who has NOT begun puberty. We are talking about ages 11 and under generally.

A relationship between a 22 year old teacher and a 16 year old student is illegal because it involves one person in position of authority the teacher over the student. It is also inappropriate. but it is not pedophilia. But some people are saying that now.

Some are trying to equate any kind of emotional attachment between an adult and a teen as some act of sexual deviant behavior. In truth, youth need adult mentors and several or them as well.

Same thing is happening with parents. Some consider any nudity between a parent and a youth immoral but it is OK if the child is nude in the same situation with some other adult. Seeing a penis is automatically sexual deviant behavior.

Sad but true. There is this group fortunately not a majority that are against any kind of bonding between an adult and a teen.

But anyone working with youth know that is a piece of crap. Boys need male mentor bonding. That is one of the reasons you are hear. You want and need assurance from adult men that you do measure up as a man. All guys need this. All of them including you and me. As long as the sexual overtones are left out, it is a wonderful thing.

I can only recall a few times that my PE teacher/coach showered with the students. I believe it was the last period of the day so I doubt anyone was suprised when he showered also. Nothing sexual at all, just "the boys" getting ready to go home for the day.

i had ugly coaches so i wouldn't have wanted to shower with them or else i'd cry RAPE!

At my high school (this was in the nineties), no teacher could be alone in a room with one student. There always had to be more students or another teacher. Just in case the student cried rape or whatever. So, needless to say, my coach never showered with the guys. Can you imagine how many things could be misinterpreted when an adult is naked with some teens? More's the pity he didn't shower with us because I'd loved to have seen him naked.