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Originally Posted by Phil Ayesho Thinking your thinking should be FORCED upon all others? God, the irony. Are you just incapable of perceiving irony?

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Old 05-04-2008   #31 (permalink)
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Thinking your thinking should be FORCED upon all others?
God, the irony. Are you just incapable of perceiving irony?
 
Old 05-04-2008   #32 (permalink)
ScottishLad is offline

I think it is a complex issue, but one which in the 21c ultimately comes down to cultural reasons as opposed to health factors.

This makes me ask the simple question of why?

What about the child's rights, choice and invovlement in the decision making process?

Surely it would be better to allowed the boy to decide- perhaps when he is a teenager to have his own foreskin removed?

Circumcision - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Old 05-04-2008   #33 (permalink)
mista geechee is online now

im not cut, my paps wasnt cut. his paps wasnt cut. and if i have a son he wont be cut
 
Old 05-04-2008   #34 (permalink)
dxjnorto is online now

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Surely it would be better to allowed the boy to decide- perhaps when he is a teenager to have his own foreskin removed?
Exactly, why preempt his decision (when you have a pretty good chance of being despised for it while he quite obviously has a very small chance of ever doing it.) A midwife I know did just this. She had her first son cut, then thought better of it with her next son. When he turned 18 she said, O.K., go get yourself cut if you want. Her son was like

By the way love that naturally vascularized cock ScottishLad!
 
Old 05-04-2008   #35 (permalink)
SirConcis is offline

Re: the 60% circumcision rate statistic.

This number may not be wholly representative. More and more mothers are discharged early from hospital and they get the circumcision done separately during a seubsequent visit to hospital or to a doctor's clinic, so those circumcision don't show up in the "birth" records use by those statistics.

Read some document about some study of teenage/high school guys in texas (13-15 years old). About 85% were cut. Can't remember the URL.

There is no question that the circ rate has gone down since the 1980s in the USA. But I am not sure there is some accurate nationwide statistic of say 1 year olds that should show circ status.
 
Old 05-04-2008   #36 (permalink)
dolfette is offline

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Syddy for a nice guy, you're a little too close to dolfette's boyfriend's mind for comfort. Dolfette, I hope your birth control is bomb proof so you don't have to start WWIII.
i put it to him that if my son wants it done at 18 then i'll support that choice.
he had no counter to that.
just because he has it and likes it, doesn't mean another man will feel the same. i'd rather give my son the choice.

as for the pain...
well it'll hurt whenever.
if i have a boob job it'll hurt. so will a bikini wax. or tatts.
that's life.
 
Old 05-04-2008   #37 (permalink)
ballsaplenty2156 is offline

23 and cut here. Wouldn't want it any other way.
 
Old 05-04-2008   #38 (permalink)
NIMBUS is offline

Bottom line for me is that it should not be within the remit for parents to make any decisions concerning their child's healthcare unless they have to do so in a medical emergency.

It's illegal for parents to decide to tattoo or pierce a child because they like the appearance - why should cutting off a piece of the child's body be any different?
 
Old 05-04-2008   #39 (permalink)
cockmonger7 is offline

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18 and cut, thank God.
20 and cut...also very happy with it
 
Old 05-04-2008   #40 (permalink)
Northland is offline

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Exactly, why preempt his decision (when you have a pretty good chance of being despised for it while he quite obviously has a very small chance of ever doing it.)
Except for around here, I have yet to find a circumcised man who is in everloving hatred of his ma and pa for having him circumcised. If that becomes your all consuming function and thought in life; then, you have some very serious emotional problems which go way beyond a piece of skin; which, although it serves a purpose, is not necessary. Should it be the choice of the male? Definitely. Is it something to spend the rest of all time grumping about? No. I was circumcised after an accident ravaged my foreskin and have had a satisfying sex life since then. I do not experience difficulty or pain or dry friction with partners and my sex partners-male and female-have not had problems with me when we have been engaged (sexually).


The foreskin goes back to a time when man ran around with little to no clothing and the penis shaft needed protection from the brush and the various bugs which existed in the wilderness. Can it still protect a penis shaft? Yes. After my accident; I was told that the foreskin kept my shaft from being mutilated. The skin was torn up badly and had to go and so it did. Was it nice to have? Sure. I enjoyed mine while it still existed; however, I am quite content in life without it and have no desire to go and make a fake skin from around my belly and shaft by pulling and tugging to create some absurd looking thing which isn't even legitimate as a foreskin. Keep in mind folks, those fake skins that the foreskin growners tell of, are not real foreskin. They do not have the sensations which the genuine article has. They are simply cells stretched and pulled from elsewhere. They may give a sensation along the shaft of having a foreskin; but that is the entire extent of it. Slap a round of pork rind on and you can get the same feel.
 
Old 05-04-2008   #41 (permalink)
chavous is offline

none of my friends had their babies cut, the trend is towards not cutting. every now and then I hear someone say I want him to be like his father and choose circumsision. I work in a hospital and a lot of babies are left intact!
 
Old 05-04-2008   #42 (permalink)
toadstool is offline

i love my big head and am glad to be cut but i work in a hospital and i think the majority are cut in the north country
 
Old 05-04-2008   #43 (permalink)
Moez??? is offline

My point was outlawing it would be fascist. You can't argue that being cut or uncut takes away pleasure, because you only experienced what you are. And when older men get cut, there is something there missing they had their whole lives, of course it's gonna feel like there is less.

Circumcision Doesn't Reduce Sexual Satisfaction And Performance, Says Study Of 4,500 Men

By definition, mutilation could include cutting hair, nails, or shaving. But using it as you are is just putting your own bias into it.

I, and many men, are happy being circumsized. I wouldn't care if I wasn't though. Do you not find it rude, arrogant, and stupid to demand that if I had a son, it's not my choice to circumsize him? Every study shows nothing happens either way, why do you want to take that right away from parents? It's harmless, and should not be an issue.
 
Old 05-04-2008   #44 (permalink)
SteveHd is offline

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Re: the 60% circumcision rate statistic.
This is a general comment rather than a reply.

I figure 60% is from the often quoted National Hospital Discharge Survey. It's really an estimate; the actual number isn't really known. It may be incomplete but it is essentially the best tracking of infant circumcision that we have at this time. It's most useful for deriving multi-year trends; year-to-year fluctuations should be viewed carefully. It shouldn't be extrapolated to the adult population.
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This number may not be wholly representative. More and more mothers are discharged early from hospital and they get the circumcision done separately during a seubsequent visit to hospital or to a doctor's clinic, so those circumcision don't show up in the "birth" records use by those statistics.
Some of the pro-cutters make that assertion but I don't buy into it. It's generally well-known that if a baby leaves the hospital intact it's rather unlikely he'll be cut later. Moreover there is an increasing number of babies being born outside of the medical establishment using midwives/doulas. Safe assumption: a lower percentage of those are being cut. All of those births are completely missed by NHDS.

So, SirConcis, you're correct that the number "may not be wholly representative". The true R.I.C. rate might be much lower!
 
Old 05-04-2008   #45 (permalink)
dolfette is offline

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Do you not find it rude, arrogant, and stupid to demand that if I had a son, it's not my choice to circumsize him?
i think that's the point.
shouldn't it be his choice?

if a man chooses it for himself then i'm all for it.
not to my tastes but body modification isn't something i object to, in consenting adults.
 

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