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morsecode is | Quote:
Originally Posted by vergax I completely agree with you, Locomiax.
There are so many historical mistakes in labelling from things to regions to people that even if you try to call by its correct definition (Wikipedia is not enough of a source), it is by now, impossible.
The "Latin America" label was coined in the USA, I read.
So, of course, the mistakenly called "latinos" in the USA or the rest of the American continent, who know little history or cannot be bothered to change the mistake, continue the mistaken label.
A person who looks nothing like spanish and comes from the american continent should not be called "latin" or "spanish" just because speaks spanish or another romance or latin language.
Anyway, for this forum, it is rather inconsequential to speak about this. | Geez, and what should I be called? zambo, criollo, mulato, mestizo, of course none of them would work because I'm tri-racial, so what should I call myself?...and let me ask you something, is someone from Madrid more latin than someone from Andalucia? taking into account that the Andalucian probably has darker skin because of the mixing with North-Africans that took place for 800 years, and maybe Roma people, so they are not white-white, just kinda white. Or an Andalucian is less latin than a white Argentinian whose only mix was Spanish and Italian?
And by the way lots of "latin south-americans" have more affinity to Spain because that was the only culture that was left, sure there may be pockets of West African and Amerindian culture (and more Amerindian in Bolivia, Peru, etc.) or at least Spanish and Portuguese culture is the vastly predominant one in Southamerica, even the music of my region comes from flamenco, because of the Andalucian conquistadores that came.
And locomiax, relax, it's just a damn word, I bet that the preoccupation of cataloging human beings "correctly" led to myths of superiority and inferiority amongst people, all people. | | | |
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vergax is | Quote:
Originally Posted by morsecode Geez, and what should I be called? zambo, criollo, mulato, mestizo, of course none of them would work because I'm tri-racial, so what should I call myself?...and let me ask you something, is someone from Madrid more latin than someone from Andalucia? taking into account that the Andalucian probably has darker skin because of the mixing with North-Africans that took place for 800 years, and maybe Roma people, so they are not white-white, just kinda white. Or an Andalucian is less latin than a white Argentinian whose only mix was Spanish and Italian?
And by the way lots of "latin south-americans" have more affinity to Spain because that was the only culture that was left, sure there may be pockets of West African and Amerindian culture (and more Amerindian in Bolivia, Peru, etc.) or at least Spanish and Portuguese culture is the vastly predominant one in Southamerica, even the music of my region comes from flamenco, because of the Andalucian conquistadores that came.
And locomiax, relax, it's just a damn word, I bet that the preoccupation of cataloging human beings "correctly" led to myths of superiority and inferiority amongst people, all people. | The "problem" with labelling ethnicities is that, as you pointed in your andalusian example, almost the entire planet is mixed. But there are geopolitical and geographical separations. Therefore I would propose that we call ourselves from the country we are from, to begin with, and the planet to end with  .
Andalusians are part of Spain, so they are "latin" if we consider latin countries as a whole: Portugal, Spain, parts of France, parts of Switzerland (Ticino and Swiss-romande), Italy and Romania.
It is not about creating a fuzz about something we cannot possibly change, now. But I think locomiax is trying to point out that if most of a person's heritage (ethnic and cultural) is not from the european "latin" countries, then is not correct to autodenominate themselves "latin".
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-Latin should be left for history books to denominate the ancient people from the italian peninsula.
-Hispanic should be only for people from the geographical zone known in roman times as Hispaniae or whose heritage is in majority from there. | | | |
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giozam is | Embrazo?!?
LOL!
What the hell was wrong with me?
ABRAZO muy fuerte!
Cheers,
gio |
Everybody wants me to be their angel
Everybody wants something they can cradle
They don't know I burn
They don't know I burn
Maybe there's a devil (or something like it) inside of me
Maybe there's a devil somewhere really deep inside me
You don't know cuz you're too busy reading labels
You're missing all the action underneath my table
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Nick4444 is | I'll take that abrazo, and while hugging you, lift your feet off the ground! Quote:
Originally Posted by giozam Embrazo?!?
LOL!
What the hell was wrong with me?
ABRAZO muy fuerte!
Cheers,
gio | | Hey! I know what to do with a drunken sailor! Vancouver Canucks will rule! (maybe next year!) クジラを救いなさい -- 日本人を銛を打ち込みなさい 解放西藏 ! | |
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Nick4444 is | Quote:
Originally Posted by giozam Embrazo?!?
LOL!
What the hell was wrong with me?
ABRAZO muy fuerte!
Cheers,
gio | growing up, that's one of the things I always admired about Latinos -- they seemed to so easily show their feelings, and seemed to enjoy life more, as a result | Hey! I know what to do with a drunken sailor! Vancouver Canucks will rule! (maybe next year!) クジラを救いなさい -- 日本人を銛を打ち込みなさい 解放西藏 ! | |
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AlteredEgo is | Quote:
Originally Posted by free2jump4u I'm asking about all you guys, Spanish, Mexican, Cuban, Argentine, US mixed, Chilean (ha,ha, chili, get it?), whatever.
Why would you hesitate? Aren't Spanish people ... em ... Spanish/Hispanic? Nice cut of meat, by the way! | I think Hispanic= from Hispaniola, which is now Hati and the Dominican Republic.
I also think you can't lump people all together in a group and say "those people have xyz kind of penises" or anything like that. | Leyendo: ˇPásela alrededor! Reading: Pass it on! | |
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morsecode is | Quote:
Originally Posted by vergax The "problem" with labelling ethnicities is that, as you pointed in your andalusian example, almost the entire planet is mixed. But there are geopolitical and geographical separations. Therefore I would propose that we call ourselves from the country we are from, to begin with, and the planet to end with  .
Andalusians are part of Spain, so they are "latin" if we consider latin countries as a whole: Portugal, Spain, parts of France, parts of Switzerland (Ticino and Swiss-romande), Italy and Romania.
It is not about creating a fuzz about something we cannot possibly change, now. But I think locomiax is trying to point out that if most of a person's heritage (ethnic and cultural) is not from the european "latin" countries, then is not correct to autodenominate themselves "latin".
IMO:
-Latin should be left for history books to denominate the ancient people from the italian peninsula.
-Hispanic should be only for people from the geographical zone known in roman times as Hispaniae or whose heritage is in majority from there. | I met this girl in Canada whose parents were both Spaniards, she was born in Spain and lived there for a while, but she couldn't speak Castillian to save her life...I believe I'm more of a Spaniard than she is, I've even gone to bullfighting events (it sucks, I wish I wouldn't have gone but whatever). I also believe that people have a right of calling themselves whatever they want...and as such, I will call myself a gooback, seeing that there's no word for myself except that one (sort-of), and as a Gooback I have a totally average penis which is uniform to all of those who are like me.
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The Greek Dude is | Quote:
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And if you're lucky I won't take yer jeeeeerrrbs! | THEY TOOK OUR JAAAAAAAEEERRBBS! |
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sedated is | I'm from Mexico... u tell me about it ;) hehehe | There are 10 kinds of people in the world: those who understand binary, and those who don't! yeah.... little geek! | |
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Originally Posted by sedated I'm from Mexico... u tell me about it ;) hehehe | That's a great one, sedated!  | | | |
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handcuffsfan4 is | i dont know about any of you but im human. as i am Irish, English, Scottish, French, Norwegian, German on my mothers side, and Filipino, Spanish, Chinese, Italian on my dads side. most of my friends just call me Asian, which is a big understatement, as strangers would call me Hispanic. but id rather just be called human as that is what we are all apart of. | | | |
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giozam is | Quote:
Originally Posted by Nick4444 growing up, that's one of the things I always admired about Latinos -- they seemed to so easily show their feelings, and seemed to enjoy life more, as a result | Depends on the Latinos! My family was very open about showing emotion, but the men still displayed their machismo every now and then.
I'll gladly give you that abrazo, bro!  |
Everybody wants me to be their angel
Everybody wants something they can cradle
They don't know I burn
They don't know I burn
Maybe there's a devil (or something like it) inside of me
Maybe there's a devil somewhere really deep inside me
You don't know cuz you're too busy reading labels
You're missing all the action underneath my table
I'm waiting for my turn
Just waiting for my turn
Time to make it burn
This is how I burn | |
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sedated is | Wow tu tambien la tienes bastante grande y rica  !! Quote:
Originally Posted by spaniardick That's a great one, sedated!  | | There are 10 kinds of people in the world: those who understand binary, and those who don't! yeah.... little geek! | |
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dxjnorto is | Quote:
Originally Posted by handcuffsfan4 but id rather just be called human as that is what we are all apart of. | Me too. I'd rather be in the larger group rather than a bunch of smaller groups. I feel something in common with all our earthborn creatures. | | | |
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