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Originally Posted by dolfette  no, actually the estimates are that somewhere around 1/3 women will be sexually assaulted at some point in their lives.
i didn't say most but that's a large proportion.
and, again...where did i say it wouldn't bother men? demented rant indeed.
i said they wouldn't have the same fears. that's hardly the same thing.
a ''bother'' based on embarrassment.
and i at no point argued that women should be in the men's changing area. i just pointed out why i and many other women wouldn't shop where men were allowed in the women's.
you based your rant, your demented rant, on that and that alone. |
how is the rant demented
you have failed to counter a single point I have made....
you make half points as if they mean something...
you cannot say women will fear something, and men will not fear it, then just quietly skip over the fact that you still feel men would be uncomfortable and claim to have not said it, it is said by implication
that or you simply changed the subject....
either way you seem to have this desire to fight, without fighting
you continue the argument with me then go "oh btw I'm not arguing with you I'm agreeing with you" what kind of fool insists on an argument with someone they agree with?
anyway I've already explained how fear and discomfort are related, you either do not understand, or just opt not to comment because you know your argument has been defeated....either way I'm kind of bored with your doubletalk so in the future try saying what you actually mean instead of half comments that you intend to back away from when you are called on them
btw, your assessment is that because 1/3 women have been attacked (we'll use your numbers cus I am such a nice guy) no men should go into the womens fitting rooms based on a womans fear is rather foolish
I mean if a woman is so concerned that she is going to be assulted in public with dozens of people around to help her I do not think it likely that she will go out to shop...and even if she did a customer is as likely to be a rapist as an employee (more likely in fact since we have more customers then employees) so wouldn't it be BETTER for her if male employees where nearby to stop a rapist from getting at her?
I would really prefer if you make an actual (full) point and let me counter if you plan on debating about it, all you have been doing is making half statements that you can back out of later and calling my argument (that you claim to agree with by the way) a Demented Rant
if my rant is so demented why are you agreeing with me each time you back away from your previous bullshit statement?
case in point is that I start off saying women should not go into the mens fitting rooms, you come along and say men definatly can't go in womens fitting rooms
now, your comment has NOTHING to do with my comment except to be contrary
but then you later insist that you never said women should be in the mens fitting rooms....
so why in the hell did you in effect change the subject?
further why can you not meet my point about fear/discomfort being different sides of the same coin head on
instead you fall back on your superweak Demented Rant formula
(does this method work on the people you usually talk to?)
how about this
if you respond again answer these simple questions so we can see what you ACTUALLY think instead of trying to guess from all your half stated double talk
1.) should women go into the mens fitting room area?
2.) should men go into the womens fitting room area?
3.) if someone answers differently to 1&2 is it arguable that they are sexist?
4.) are fear and discomfort related?
5.) is there a situation you can be afraid of that does not make you uncomfortable
6.) is there a situation you know will make you uncomfortable that you do not fear going into
I await your answers, tho honestly I doubt you will respond with anything other then your same tired Demented Rant commentary
