Are Guys Born Straight

lol i was just usin an example, it's bad enough having to take dicks up the ass. i love it but i can't deny i'm not used to it yet so cucumbers are out of the question. a baby carrot maybe. i've only been fucked twice so i'm still pretty tight, you could stick a piece of coal up my ass and i'd shit a diamond. anywho, back to the topic at hand. in general, maybe this is just the alchohol talking but since my post about the cucumber, i'm not understanding any of the responses

As we all know, sex is what ever form is by design made to be enjoyable, so that we repeat it.

If we are designed to be straight, then why is it also so pleasurable to have a dick or something up your ass, to stimulating your prostate to give you one of the most explosive orgasms..

Perhaps we are designed to have fun, enjoy what you like, whether it be gay, straight, bi or solo.

I think its just part of your dna makeup. Everyones different. Its not just about gay or straight. Some people are just downright freaky. Hence the huge market for individual fetishes.

My current girlfriend has a 16 year old bro who is real cool and i get the impression he is going to lead an actively gay lifestyle. He is pretty camp and has no interest in girls physically but has far more female friends than male friends. He hasnt had his brain warped or anything like that, hes just being how he is.

Yes, some (most) are born straight, but some are born gay. Ask any gay man if he was born straight and at some point decided to be gay, and if he is being totally honest, he will tell you that from a very early age he knew something was different. Many gay men were very conflicted in their youth because of the negative messages they got from society about gay behavior. Some of us even tried to fit into the mold (marry and have children) that was expected. What I don't understand is why some straight people cannot wrap their mind around the possibilty that some of us were actually born to be gay and we cannot change that.

we ARE designed to be straight...it is an evolutionary design...and sexual reproduction was designed for sexual reproduction, not for pleasure...it just happens to be pleasurable as well. being tickled is pleasurable, receiving a full body massage (non sexual) is pleasurable, having your back scratched is pleasurable as well.

the highlighted text has nothing to do with design, nor does sticking something up your ass to stimulate the prostate mean you are not straight. (unless it is a dick or another male doing it to you in some capacity as a result of being ATTRACTED to men)

The prostate is not "designed" to be anally stimulated. It serves a purpose in the male sexual reproductive system, and its stimulation is in fact not at all necessary, nor was ever intended to be necessary to stimulate the male orgasm....the fact that people found it pleasurable to stimulate it anally is not "by design" it is a byproduct of sexual exploration.

sexual orientation is not about pleasure, it is about attraction...two very different things.

I think most rational and intelligent people can wrap their heads around it... i know i can, and so can many others who are more tolerant, open and intelligent, not to mention it is not nearly anywhere the same level of stigma it once was, and frankly, the societal change in even only the last 25 years is rather remarkable when you consider it.

Fact is, this generation has grown up around the conversation, and even the older generation is getting more used to it...it is a fact of life and is part of the culture now, even if there are a large portion who don't accept it.

it is nothing like the 50s 60s or even the 70s nowadays.

as for the other folks who think that you can just send a gay person to a camp where they will be "re-programmed", well, who gives a fuck what freaks like that think? They are idiots...and idiots are best ignored.

You say we are designed to be straight, but then give very strong proof that we are designed to be gay. Nothing in the human body is designed by chance. There is a reason the penis is a very stimulated organ. There is also a reason the prostrate is a very stimulated organ. It is to give great pleasure to gay guys so they won't turn straight on us. In reality straight men only are using half of their sexual body parts. That doesn't sound like the way we were designed. It goes against nature. So I would say nature has designed men to encourage them to be gay.

mildly amusing, if totally insane

I think being straight is learned or recruited, just like being a jerk, for example, is picked up along the way

well-said

I disagree with this. When I was younger, I liked girls. I didn't see any difference between me or any of my other friends.

It wasn't until puberty started that I realised I was attracted to guys.

I'm not saying we AREN'T born with a predetermined sexual preference. I'm just saying that we don't have enough evidence to conclude that we are. There would have to be some way of detecting homosexuality in very young children way before puberty (which is fairly early, I've heard some start at the age of seven).

Before puberty, sexual attraction doesn't exist because those hormones aren't active in our bodies. When children have crushes on other children, they are just going with what is normal, because they don't know anything else. I didn't even know what 'gay' meant until age 10 or 11.

Rob <3

If truly delved into, it's a choice, if just accepted, it's instinct. All in all the longer and harder I think about it the less I can tell for either of the black / white sides.

Perhaps the social quota. Thinking "girls have cooties" might be the natural, and getting pressured to like someone / anyone might be the social aspect. Yes, attraction is natural after a bit, but as with most it comes in a flurry of confusion.

Actually, it might exist, but we decided most of the male genetic code was "junk" so we might not be finding it soon... Oh, and by the way, not all natural or biological processes are genetic; not everything needs to be hardcoded; there's also chemical processes and whatnot to take into account.

I'd agree due to studying Greece, Rome, the Edo, etc. When the norm was to be infatuated with one's own sex it was pushed pressured and people conformed. It might not be any different in this instance.

I'm 100% gay, but what u say doesn't even make since. If the species wasn;t designed to reproduce, NO ONE WOULD BE HERE. So you should HOPE that it was designed to reproduce. There are just other groups (hate to use the work "sub" groups, LOL) who weren't.

This is a fallacy of composition. Just because X can feel good does not designate X's design. For instance, a person uses a vibrating toothbrush to achieve orgasm, or a non-specific object as a dildo, both of which weren't designed for such a thing.

Same here; the prostate is not designed to be a sexual organ, nor is the anus, the sphincter, or other parts. The potential of nerves to feel pleasure is not equivalent to the design of the body. For some, just playing with non-sexual parts, such as the arm and hand, can send shivers up spines, shall we call the hands, the palms, the elbows, the feet, the knees, the thighs, and for some even the forehead sexual organs?

No.

LoL, You might be right about that.

(QUOTE=This is a fallacy of composition. Just because X can feel good does not designate X's design. For instance, a person uses a vibrating toothbrush to achieve orgasm, or a non-specific object as a dildo, both of which weren't designed for such a thing. [/quote]

I think you are wrong there. It is not the vibrating toothbrush or a dildo that gives you the organism, it is the vagina, penis, prostrate being stimulated that gives you the organism no matter what you use. Turn on a vibrating toothbrush, it does nothing to me. Put it against my dick, explosions occur. Since the prostrate is able to give a male a full organism without the penis being stimulated, it is a very real sex organ. For most people the palms, elbow and feet can not give a male an orgasm alone. (Unless you are Meg Ryan eating a deli sandwich) That is the difference. Only a straight person would say the prostrate is not a sexual organ. They just choose to not use it.