05-05-2008
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Originally Posted by spunkyboy2008 | That sounds like a VERY interesting study. There are no tendons in the penis, but there is a suspensory ligament. Stretching and lengthening the suspensory ligament has been theorizedand even practiced in surgical penile enlargement. I suspect that it is not what I want as far as penile growth. I want my suspensory ligament to be strong and supple for better erections, not stretched out and floppy. I need that suspensory ligament to be strong enough to lift my heavy pumped penis into some type of an erect state. I haven't figured out how to strengthen the ligament except for some light jelqing though... maybe you have a suggestion? Either way, that is a cool as hell fucking link and I am gonna check it out.
I just checked it out and it was a study about collagen tissue, not specifically tendons, although that is the title of the study. It seemed that low intensity and high duration force is what was the best for growth. It also suggested that heat was also necessary for the process to be successful. That does not really describe jelqing, but it does describe light pressure and long duration pumping with heat. I just think that the penis is a very important and somewhat complex organ. It resists long term growth because it must maintain it's structural integrity for successful breeding. That has just been my personal experience. That link was awesome and gives me more motivation to keep up my PE efforts and gives me hope for some kind of permanent growth. Thanx Spunkboy!  | | | |
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05-08-2008
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#17 (permalink)
| | | Try Both. Pump And Jelq In The Same Session. This Is The Best And Is Working Well For Me. | | | |
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05-09-2008
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#18 (permalink)
| | | Clamping works the best for me. I've tried jelquing and pumping. Although pumping was working well, I prefer to clamp daily and pump once a week. | | | |
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05-14-2008
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Originally Posted by tripod It defies the laws of nature... the human body will always try to achieve the state of homeostasis, if something rises, it will eventually fall.
Nobody who lifts weights has ever built themselves up to a point where they could just stop lifting because they have "cemented" their gains.
Your theory is just not possible... the smooth muscle cells of the penis do not respond to exercise like skeletal muscle and they do not really enlarge due to jelqing anyway. The skin will shrink back down after you stop jelqing and any vascular improvements that gave you improved circulation will go away also. What the hell is permanent about jelqing? You will have to prove your theory of "cementing" your gains because it is just not scientifically possible. | Correct,if the pumping/jelging stops..so will the results.like weightlifting,once the gains are achieved you still must work to maintain those gains.thus..CEMENTING those gains. | | | |
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05-14-2008
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#20 (permalink)
| | | From the female perspective... the change in the shape of the penis sometimes caused by pumping can be unattractive, yes it makes the penis larger - esp if you are pumping for girth - but it doesn't look the same. It also isn't always practical from the "put it in and pound me good" point of view either. I've seen pumping results that were hot, but some that well, just looked freaky.
I've had a few friends have good results with jelqing - one that gained 7/8 inch in less than 6 months going from 3.5 inch to almost 4.5 inches. I hope he keeps it up but doubt that even years of jelqing would bring him to my desired size (7+ inches). I also talked to one man a few times that wore a streching device daily under his pants. He had length alright, but it was fairly skinny for the girth/length ratio.
No matter how you guys enhance the size, I still love a good hard one. | | | |
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05-19-2008
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| | | I think one can conclude from the sheer volume of testimonials that PE works, at least for some.
The size of the penis is determined by the confines of the tough, connective tissue envelope called the tunica albuginica. The spongy, erectile tissue of the corpora cavernosa could enlarge more, but the tunica is inelastic.
If the connective tissues of the tunica can be stretched or enlarged, the volume of the penis is enlarged, assuming the hydraulics are intact.
Your abdominal wall has basically identical connective tissue layers, called fascia, that hold your guts in. One look at a guy with a huge beer gut leaves no doubt that the abdominal wall fascia can be enlarged with the appropriate force over sufficient time. | | | |
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4 Weeks Ago
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#22 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by tripod It defies the laws of nature... the human body will always try to achieve the state of homeostasis, if something rises, it will eventually fall.
Nobody who lifts weights has ever built themselves up to a point where they could just stop lifting because they have "cemented" their gains.
Your theory is just not possible... the smooth muscle cells of the penis do not respond to exercise like skeletal muscle and they do not really enlarge due to jelqing anyway. The skin will shrink back down after you stop jelqing and any vascular improvements that gave you improved circulation will go away also. What the hell is permanent about jelqing? You will have to prove your theory of "cementing" your gains because it is just not scientifically possible. | Not true....it has been proven to work and is permanent! Jelqing is a proven method of permanent penile girth enlargement and sometimes length. Quote:
Originally Posted by redbear52 I think one can conclude from the sheer volume of testimonials that PE works, at least for some.
The size of the penis is determined by the confines of the tough, connective tissue envelope called the tunica albuginica. The spongy, erectile tissue of the corpora cavernosa could enlarge more, but the tunica is inelastic.
If the connective tissues of the tunica can be stretched or enlarged, the volume of the penis is enlarged, assuming the hydraulics are intact.
Your abdominal wall has basically identical connective tissue layers, called fascia, that hold your guts in. One look at a guy with a huge beer gut leaves no doubt that the abdominal wall fascia can be enlarged with the appropriate force over sufficient time. |
Not sure the stomach tissue is the same....but your correct about the Tunica.
By the way this is Chance's friend Chris....Chance is away and I am at the keyboard...for a week.
Best,
Chris | | | |
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4 Weeks Ago
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#23 (permalink)
| | | I know of jelquing, but what is pumping? I'm guessing that's when you use a pump? | | | |
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2 Weeks Ago
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| | | I think the "cementing" is a plausible point. If one looks at it from a modification standpoint, one could vaguely compare, possibly, piercings with the issues at hand. With piercing, after a certain stretched size is reached, the tissues will have the inability to close the pierced area, therefor a permanent modification. Now when the issue of a body builder is brought up, one is referencing to muscle mass and if medical research has any bearing, the penis isn't a muscle, but more of a tissue of skin, vessels, and cartilage-like structures. I'm just somewhat up in the air with what works and doesn't, but I'm still very open minded. And with being 19 with 7" I think I'll have plenty of time to encourage increasing of some sort: be it girth and/or length... | | | |
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2 Weeks Ago
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Originally Posted by tripod That sounds like a VERY interesting study. There are no tendons in the penis, but there is a suspensory ligament. Stretching and lengthening the suspensory ligament has been theorizedand even practiced in surgical penile enlargement. I suspect that it is not what I want as far as penile growth. I want my suspensory ligament to be strong and supple for better erections, not stretched out and floppy. I need that suspensory ligament to be strong enough to lift my heavy pumped penis into some type of an erect state. I haven't figured out how to strengthen the ligament except for some light jelqing though... maybe you have a suggestion? Either way, that is a cool as hell fucking link and I am gonna check it out. | Well i made my best gains in length by stretching my ligs but think i managed to keep a high erection angle by doing towel raises, erect kegels and normal kegels. Iv gained an inch in length by stretching my ligs and through all my other exercises have kept, if not improved erection quality and angle  | | | |
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2 Weeks Ago
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#26 (permalink)
| | | Ive tried jelquing using the roller system and the results left much to be desired.On the other hand ive discovered pumping/stretching is a winning combination...i pump 5 days a week and stretch 7 but.....ive been at this since 92 and while the results are permanent..you gotta keep at it or you will shrink.just like bodybuilding folks..patience and persistance pay off. | | | |
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2 Weeks Ago
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#27 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by tripod Nobody who lifts weights has ever built themselves up to a point where they could just stop lifting because they have "cemented" their gains.
Your theory is just not possible... the smooth muscle cells of the penis do not respond to exercise like skeletal muscle and they do not really enlarge due to jelqing anyway. The skin will shrink back down after you stop jelqing and any vascular improvements that gave you improved circulation will go away also. | First of all, the penis is not a muscle, so it is not comparable to lifting weights in which inactivity causes muscles to atrophy.
There is a evolutionary mechanism that helps prevent atrophy of the penis - morning wood. The purpose of getting erections in your sleep even when you're NOT dreaming of sex is so that the veins and tissues stay functional and don't deteriorate in the case that they are not being used. (I woke up with an erection this morning, from a dream in which I was having a political argument with John Kerry - yikes  )
What you said about the skin sure doesn't apply when an obese person loses a bunch of weight and has all that extra skin sagging off. So why would it apply just to the penis?
If jelquing does achieve its purpose - expanding the veins and tissues in the penis that absorb blood during an erection - then that means each time you get a hard on, the blood fills those areas to capacity (or close). So as long as you're using your dick, it makes sense to me that the gains would be permanent. | | | |
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