gay culture.....WHY?

i don't know if this is the right place to put this, but I'm fed up with it. why is it that guys that aren't macho get called gay? I'm sorry if i offend any one by this, but gay guys need to see that just because a guy is into fashion or looking nice, doesn't mean that hes gay. i don't know how many gay guys start hitting on me because i flat iron my hair or dress nicely. but the thing that ticks me off the most is, "You just don't know that you are gay yet." i think that i would know if i was gay, and I personally don't have a problem with gay people, or whatever you are, but i have a problem with the whole stereotype that makes me gay because i care about how i look and treat women with respect. i just kinda want to know why people think like this.

because people are stupid.

i guess so. i just thought there would be an actual reason or something.

People fear what they don't understand and feel the need to push other people down in order to feel better about themselves.

I've never been the average guy and I'm OK with that.

Conversely, as a "straight acting" gay guy (except for that whole sucking cock thing) as I have come out recently to friends from high school, their collective reaction has been, "no, you're not" including some gay friends.

I understand your frustrations in a "photo negative" sort of way.

Nice schlong, by the way.

There's never an actual reason why people take the easy route without knowing it. Sorry. Stereotypes, though they seem based in truth, are hurtful and wrong.

thanks. and i guess that makes alot of sense. i wonder where the whole thing came from.

lol, i don't know either dude; I think that bastards are baiting me to prove i'm gay by blowing them!

Reckon it all comes down to the stupid thinking of some people, to say people are light on their feet - means gay why? bet they have nice nets (as in net curtains) if a couple of guys live together (gay or not but look after their place).
People or that generation well more of a group- well guys actually - are probably of the group who will say I don't use deodorant, or I haven't changed my socks or pants for a week and find it acceptable. - They somehow think this makes them straight - well possibly but stinky..

Guys should take care of themselves, look good, care for their skin, hair and body. Being sensitive to people is a good thing, we can all act hard when we need to or want to, but not all the time.

some people seem to think wanting to be clean, smell good, well dressed and have a tidy and well mannered approach to life is a feminine thing, as opposed to ????? dirty male pig thing??? - I reckon some people are just programmed in that way. WEIRD!!!

Carry on your life how you want to live it, be it straight, gay or bi, look how you want to, who would you rather sit next to on a bus or train, a stinky macho (so called) guy or a clean nice smelling presentable guy...

ANSWER TO THE WEIRDOS - Fuck em!!!

Agree 100%

haha thanks

Curious. Is it just gay men or men you perceive are gay who treat you this way or straight/straight-acting men, too?

its pretty much anyone. i have had old married men and also women treat me weird because of it.

Interesting. Then I'd regard you as I did the glam rockers and cross-dressing Goths who were/are straight. There's always been a segment of society that seems to be somewhat androgynous. Most members of that segment eventually change. Eddy Izzard, the genius straight cross-dressing comic comes to mind. He's now gone to the other extreme. Wait long enough and the dominant culture will define you for themselves; examples are "hippies," "X geneteratio" "Y generation" "metrosexual," etc. You may not agree with their eventual label, but trust me, if you are unique enough and there are others like you, you'll end up with a label so society can deal with itself as it deals with you.

Just seems to be the way it works.

So much for "the low spark of high-heeled boys."

It's called stereotyping and the media helps it along (see Jack on W&G or that annoying queen on Lifetime. I'm a masculine gay jock and endure everything from the "you don't act gay" right on down. I don't fit any of the stereotypes: I hate drag shows and bars, don't listen to/worship judy/marilyn/madonna, etc., am masculine but a bottom rather than the assumed top, etc.