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Old 03-08-2008   #16 (permalink)
beretta8 is offline

well, shit fire.....
 
Old 03-08-2008   #17 (permalink)
Calboner is online now

Expressions that "don't make sense" are often the product of misunderstanding or defective cultural transmission.

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Originally Posted by Jennuine73 View Post
He wants his cake and eat it too.

Of course he'd want to eat it! What else is he going to do with it, wipe his ass?
The expression is, or at least was: "He wants to eat his cake and have it too" -- i.e., to eat it and still have cake to eat. The meaning is clear and coherent: to want both of two incompatible things. But the expression has become commonly garbled to "He wants to have his cake and eat it too" (not to "He wants his cake and eat it too," which is not even grammatical), which is senseless, since of course you have to have your cake before you can eat it.

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Originally Posted by rob_just_rob View Post
"I could care less." (not really probative of anything)
Indeed, people say that, but I have always assumed that it was just a garbled version of "I couldn't care less," which makes perfect sense.

Another expression that has suffered from garbling is "The proof of the pudding is in the eating." The expression is pithy and has a clear meaning, especially if you understand that the word "proof" here means "test." The point of the expression is that the way to find out if some product is any good is to do with it what it is made for. But the expression has become widely garbled as "The proof is in the pudding," which is as senseless as it is witless.
 
Old 03-08-2008   #18 (permalink)
Domisoldo is offline

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jennuine73 View Post
He wants his cake and eat it too.

Of course he'd want to eat it! What else is he going to do with it, wipe his ass?
I think the French version is "wanting the butter and the money for the butter".

Both make perfect sense: one cannot "have" the cake (i.e. un-eaten) and "eat" it too: 2 mutually-exclusive propositions.
 
Old 03-08-2008   #19 (permalink)
Domisoldo is offline

Although they are not technically "expressions", I believe that "flammable" and "inflammable", when they could still be used interchangeably, caused so much confusion, deaths and severe injuries that "inflammable" (which people misinterpreted as "flame-resistant") had to be taken out of the lexicon.
 
Old 03-08-2008   #20 (permalink)
rec3000 is online now

That don't make no sense.
 
Old 03-08-2008   #21 (permalink)
beretta8 is offline

I love double negatives.....
 
Old 03-08-2008   #22 (permalink)
beretta8 is offline

your the salt of the earth.....I dont know about any of you but too much salt is very baaaad for me.....
 
Old 03-08-2008   #23 (permalink)
Monster is offline

Shit on a shingle, whom the hell eats shit and why would they serve it on a shingle,
 
Old 03-08-2008   #24 (permalink)
Mr. Snakey is offline

They say that's a good movie. Who is they?
 
Old 03-08-2008   #25 (permalink)
beretta8 is offline

thats right ...who is this they..?

thats only close with horseshoes and hand grenades...
 
Old 03-08-2008   #26 (permalink)
ScaredLittleBoy is offline

A fly in the ointment.

My history teacher never understood that.

I thought it was because flies are dirty and they taint the ointment, possibly making it ineffective
 
Old 03-08-2008   #27 (permalink)
beretta8 is offline

or it stops progress....
 
Old 03-08-2008   #28 (permalink)
Tovidious is offline

Great thread here!

Below is a link that has many misused expressions in English, including "I could care less", which was originally, and is properly, "I couldn't care less", meaning it is impossible for me to care less since I do not care at all. Calboner had it right in his post both about this and "Eating one's cake and having it too." By the way, Calboner, is the kind of person I like to have for a friend and hang out with. Someone who thinks and really understands language.

As for "you are the salt of the earth..." Jesus was suggesting that people were to season the earth, the way salt is used to season food. I do not believe he was suggesting anyone should live on a diet of salt. lol

Regarding horseshoes and hand granades.... I have heard "you're close, but 'close' only counts with horseshoes and hand granades." It seems to me that means that with those two things being close counts, but with whatever was being discussed in the conversation, being close is not good enough. For those who do not know, in the game of horseshoes, if one does not get a "ringer", the one who throws the metal horseshoe closest to the stake in the ground gets the point. See the link below for details of the game. :)

Finally, don't get me started on people who cannot properly use English and use double negatives all the time. Are "they" the same "they" who say a movie is good? I suggest they are since "they" can't use proper English. ;)

"I couldn't care less":
Common Errors in English

Horseshoes:
SportsKnowHow.com - Official Horseshoe Pitching Rules - Home Page

Shit on a shingle:
Chipped beef on toast - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Old 03-08-2008   #29 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Monster View Post
Shit on a shingle, whom the hell eats shit and why would they serve it on a shingle,
lol My dad ate that in the army. He said it was good.
 
Old 03-08-2008   #30 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by beretta8 View Post
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thats only close with horseshoes and hand grenades...
This makes perfect sense to me.


I am too big for my britches, according to my father. I don't really know what this means.
 

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