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Originally Posted by Zoe73 I agree, I think it more funny, than a problem, but I imagine if I were sleeping next to him...I wouldn't feel as threatened as much as whether I should wake

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Old 03-06-2008   #16 (permalink)
invisibleman is offline

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I agree, I think it more funny, than a problem, but I imagine if I were sleeping next to him...I wouldn't feel as threatened as much as whether I should wake him or not to get it on (sometimes you want to dream -- no offense to your bedmate).

or pull out my camera and take pictures for his posterity ;)

Me too. I think that I would lose sleep time watching a hot guy hump the bed while he's asleep. Or seeing him masturbating and talking dirty. Some people are awake yet in a sleep state.

I would like to watch that.

Could this be a DMT/pineal gland experience? This sleepfucking thing?
 
Old 03-06-2008   #17 (permalink)
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Me too. I think that I would lose sleep time watching a hot guy hump the bed while he's asleep. Or seeing him masturbating and talking dirty. Some people are awake yet in a sleep state.

I would like to watch that.

Could this be a DMT/pineal gland experience? This sleepfucking thing?
Oh masturbation is a WHOLE different thing all together...Done that right next to him, w/out him knowing about it or letting him watch. That's different then doing it involuntarily in your sleep though...though we're straying off the topic again.. INvisi - you should start another thread on sleep-fucking.

I don't know about the pineal gland thing...I think it's only a problem if you're not having sex w/ your partner...

Though if the author of the thread's girlfriend googled to find out the whole hoopla with sleep-fucking...it may portend to why she wants a conversation about it. Depending on what you bring it up ... some have weird things associated with it...like preferring to have it asleep than awake or someone else said the sleep sex was really agressive, etc.

So maybe she googled something and found something really severe..
What is sexsomnia? | The Register
 
Old 03-06-2008   #18 (permalink)
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Oh masturbation is a WHOLE different thing all together...Done that right next to him, w/out him knowing about it or letting him watch. That's different then doing it involuntarily in your sleep though...though we're straying off the topic again.. INvisi - you should start another thread on sleep-fucking.

I don't know about the pineal gland thing...I think it's only a problem if you're not having sex w/ your partner...

Though if the author of the thread's girlfriend googled to find out the whole hoopla with sleep-fucking...it may portend to why she wants a conversation about it. Depending on what you bring it up ... some have weird things associated with it...like preferring to have it asleep than awake or someone else said the sleep sex was really agressive, etc.

So maybe she googled something and found something really severe..
What is sexsomnia? | The Register

Well, I don't have sexsomnia. I have read a lot on it. I think that it is interesting. I don't want to start any threads on the subject. I think there have been threads done on this topic before.
 
Old 03-06-2008   #19 (permalink)
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Sounds like she is unable to accept resonsibility; she blames everyone else for her misfortue in loosing her wallet.

She is unwilling to take her medication; sign of denial. While she may admit to problems, in reality she is denying that she has problems by refusing to take her medication.

My one question to you-Do you want to spend the rest of your life in this situation? Can you endure these burst of anger, anxiety, distrust, etc for the next 10, 20 or 50 years? Take a good look at your future and determine now what you want. If this life style is not part of your plan, then move on.

I am having a difficult time understanding why she get angry over you rubbing your penis in your sleep. There is some very deep rooted problems here and it could take extensive counseling to get these issues resovled-if at all.

Good luck; keep us posted
 
Old 03-06-2008   #20 (permalink)
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Sounds like she is unable to accept resonsibility; she blames everyone else for her misfortue in loosing her wallet.

She is unwilling to take her medication; sign of denial. While she may admit to problems, in reality she is denying that she has problems by refusing to take her medication.

My one question to you-Do you want to spend the rest of your life in this situation? Can you endure these burst of anger, anxiety, distrust, etc for the next 10, 20 or 50 years? Take a good look at your future and determine now what you want. If this life style is not part of your plan, then move on.

I am having a difficult time understanding why she get angry over you rubbing your penis in your sleep. There is some very deep rooted problems here and it could take extensive counseling to get these issues resovled-if at all.

Good luck; keep us posted

Yeah, I agree.
 
Old 03-06-2008   #21 (permalink)
Rugbypup is offline

Date a guy.

Meat for dinner, beer in the fridge and sports on TV.
 
Old 03-06-2008   #22 (permalink)
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Date a guy.

Meat for dinner, beer in the fridge and sports on TV.
And watch a guy sleep fuck the bed. And masturbate in his sleep.
 
Old 03-06-2008   #23 (permalink)
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And watch a guy sleep fuck the bed. And masturbate in his sleep.
I think that's kind of cute really.
 
Old 03-06-2008   #24 (permalink)
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And watch a guy sleep fuck the bed. And masturbate in his sleep.
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I think that's kind of cute really.
I agree. I totally agree.
 
Old 03-06-2008   #25 (permalink)
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I Agree here also....
 
Old 03-06-2008   #26 (permalink)
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I wish Matt Damon and Henry Rollins were sexsomniacs. I would love to film them humping the bed and masturbating in their sleep. Or humping each other and masturbating each other. Talking dirty. That would be hot.
 
Old 03-07-2008   #27 (permalink)
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This has been going on for a long time. She openly admited that she had issues long before I came arround. I have been by her side, done everything in my power to help. I tell her I love her more then love its self, and that I would do anything for her. But she has to make a move on her own. I thought she did, when she went to the doc, but he just gave her something to relax.Relax??? WTF
I dont see this a perminant solution to the problem. Hell No
So her whole life, when ever she gets mad and freaks she has to take a valium to calm her self down and make her all dull. I dont like that idea. The doctor wants to see her in two weeks. But she hasnt taken it. You know you can lead a horse to water but you cant make them drink. I feel like i am going to have a nervous break down. I am sitting here at my office, staring at the computer screen, not able to do anything. I am devistated, this is killing me. No matter how much I tell her, I love her she just wont let her guard down. Here is a list of her personalit traits that she portrays often.
1. High anxiety
2. Easly set off
3. Anger problems
4. Lack of trust
5. Self focused.
6. Says degrading things to me you deserve so much better!
7. Ends the relationship when we get in arugments Let Her!
8. The week before period is HELL week she turns into a different person
9. Everything bothers her and she is personally effected by everything
10. I am not alowed to get mad or angry becuase she does enough for the both of us.

YOU CAN'T FIX HER MAN!!!!
Love is not enough!! i was seperated from my ex husband for 3 years before I filed for divorce, waiting for him to get help!!! i still loved him, we were married for 17 years, we have 3 kids, i didnt want it to end!

He never did, still hasn't i kept thinking, if he loves me and the kids enough, he will get help,, never has!!! It was like, theres someone sitting here, but no one is home, i measn when i hear woman say, they don;t want to bereak up or get a divorce becasue they dont want to be lonely? I was living with a body, but i was extremly lonely,and that is so much worse!
I thought I may as well have peace in my home for me and my kids, and if i get lonely i will be okay, but i was never the type of woman that had to have man in my life to save my self esteem.

So, the best you can do, so you don't go crazy with her,, is take care of yourself!
Get counseling, if you think it will help, but it sounds like you definitly need to live apart, , , you are not responsible for her, she might be bi-polar, etc who knows,, , it's really not your business, shes an adult!
There is a lot of good medications out there now, much better than years ago, now a days you can get antidepressants from your medical doctor,( I work in a docs office) but it sounds like she really needs to see a psyciatrist,, but all you can do is fix yourself, you have to keep your sanity for the sake of your job if nothing else, my ex husband was so depressed and angry all the time,, I knew me and my kids were better off with out him, It wasnt easy believe me, i probably grieved for years! But Im a much better person today!
Hang In
There
and
Good Luck!
 
Old 03-07-2008   #28 (permalink)
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I wish Matt Damon and Henry Rollins were sexsomniacs. I would love to film them humping the bed and masturbating in their sleep. Or humping each other and masturbating each other. Talking dirty. That would be hot.
 
Old 03-07-2008   #29 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Zoe73 http://www.lpsg.org/images36/buttons/viewpost.gif

Your first sentence pissed me off. Then as I read your whole post I realized something, "You're a man baby!" No Man can put up with that!




Good lord, thanks NJQT for illustrating the point of exaggerating what was intended. I'm gald you thought enough to read the first sentence and tune out the rest, but sweetie, consider it's not meant to benefit you, as a woman. It's meant for him.

So now that you've designated yourself as the voice that speaks for ALL women HELL NO

Newsflash, It's my fucking opinion. He's got opinions from people that are saying medicate her, breakup with her and now you've got my opinion, call her out on it, when she's being remorseful, to let it go.

While you're busy critiquing how a woman NEVER say those things

If that's the big complaint you have about me being a man and not a woman -- GET OVER it.

As a woman I can fully admit if I take something the wrong way and escalate it in to something else. Kind of like you flaking out on me from the first sentence. I didn't say EVERY woman, it said it's common.



He says he loves her and says he's at the end of his rope.

So whether his sleep-fucking thing deserves the attention it is getting in this thread or not, isn't the issue in my opinion

I am not a fan of medication, because it makes you a dependent to handle a minor crisis. Thats not always true, sometimes it helps you through an event in your life that you are having a hard time handling, like Post Partum Depression


I'd also say that telling her not to blame the guy on the phone, just as she's getting off the phone isn't the smartest time to critique her on it either. That had nothing to do with gender that's just normal if someone is revved up - you don't pick that moment to aggravate with a critiq

Telling someone to take a pill is the ultimate cop-out.
Thats True, but this girl obviously needs HELP!!
This is not normal couple fighteing, getting pissed off over a wallet,, etc, its SERIOUS!!!

He's outlined several sceaniors that she has peripheral stress and is taking it out on him or someone else. She has the ability to cool down later and apologize, but is escalating how to handle that. When he could nip it in the bud by talking about it When someone is irrational as she is you CAN'T talk to them , it doesnt work!

then and telling her what she needs to do to make it right and not do that "you should just leave me shit" that rewards what she's contrived in her head.

Disagree if you want, but I'm done talking about this w/ you - it was meant for him.
 
Old 03-07-2008   #30 (permalink)
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Studies show that folks who do not get treatment for depression have the exact same recovery rate as those that do... that folks who do 12 step programs for drugs or drink have the exact same long term sobriety rate as those who do nothing..( 5%-- only 5%)
This is not simply true in both cases. You're also leaving out some key parts of the statisics you're stating which aren't correct anyway.

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Talk therapy, while massaging to the ego, does nothing to avert neuroses.
"Neuroses" is not a clinical term that many doctors use anymore. Also, therapy does work for many "neurotic" illnesses. Look up something called Cognitive Behavioral Therapy. It works wonders.

Some people are wired in a way that is so difficult to live with , that they will end up alone, no matter what they do.

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Tell her she can get herself some help, and do the therapy and take a proactive stance on her issues.... and she has X amount of time to demonstrate to you that she loves you enough to actually do it.
This is a good idea.

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But as for her behavoir--- habits that took years to wear a groove in your brain will take years of conscious avoidance to wear a different groove.
Sometimes medication and therapy can change things somewhat quickly, but the patient needs to be absolutely dedicated to the therapy. If she half-asses it like a lot of people do, she'll never change.

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Meditation shows far more efficacy at calming states of mind than does drug therapy. Moreover, meditation's effects are longer lasting, and result in overall changes in mood that can become your default state of mind.
Meditation is a wonderful addition to any mental health treatment, as is exercise. But this sounds like deliberate misinformation aimed at discounting the mental health field in favor of espousing some other "alternative" form of treatment.

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But I have seen the more profound changes in anxiety, fear and anger come out of sober meditation than any mind numbing drug regimen.
You need to learn more about mental illness if you believe this. I agree that meditation is wonderful but there's a point where it doesn't address everything that someone with a severe mental health problem is dealing with.
 

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