03-05-2008
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| | | I think a stronger case could be made that at the first opportunity, PRESIDENT Obama nominate HILLARY Clinton for the supreme court. She is a lawyer. Yes she has never been a judge but there is precedent for nominating a lawyer who has never been a judge. She would never have to worry about being elected again. She would be a thorn in the right's side for the rest of her life. She could push her liberal agenda with gusto with NO political repercusssions....I see a Cief Justic Hillary Clinton in the future. I think she would make a great supreme court justice. | | | |
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03-05-2008
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Originally Posted by jason_els This is true. Nobody's paying any attention to McCain. Problem is it costs a lot of money to keep a campaign going. Providing she can scrape-up the cash, this contest will keep the GOP marginalized simply for the headlines it grabs. | The Republican party is just a terrible "brand" this year, too. Although McCain won, he has his work cut out for him because he's not great at raising cash, and the Dems are going to tie him to Bush every single chance they get. Get ready to see lots and lots of ads showing George W. and McCain together, to drive that point home. | | | |
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03-05-2008
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Originally Posted by jeffery_stelesvyle Is he even qualified for a SCOTUS seat after the lying about the Lewinsky mess?
The Veep ideat with strong senate control could be tempting | SCOTUS (like impeachment) is a political position. He may be disbarred and guilty of perjury but that's no impediment to a SCOTUS seat. All you need is an appointment and a confirmation. The Dems should be able to keep their majority for the foreseeable future and a simple majority is all that's required. | | | |
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03-05-2008
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Originally Posted by Industrialsize I think a stronger case could be made that at the first opportunity, PRESIDENT Obama nominate HILLARY Clinton for the supreme court. She is a lawyer. Yes she has never been a judge but there is precedent for nominating a lawyer who has never been a judge. She would never have to worry about being elected again. She would be a thorn in the right's side for the rest of her life. She could push her liberal agenda with gusto with NO political repercusssions....I see a Cief Justic Hillary Clinton in the future. I think she would make a great supreme court justice. | I agree with you. She's be an awesome mind to have on the court. She could also be majority leader in the Senate and do great stuff there. | | | |
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03-05-2008
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Originally Posted by Industrialsize I think a stronger case could be made that at the first opportunity, PRESIDENT Obama nominate HILLARY Clinton for the supreme court. She is a lawyer. Yes she has never been a judge but there is precedent for nominating a lawyer who has never been a judge. She would never have to worry about being elected again. She would be a thorn in the right's side for the rest of her life. She could push her liberal agenda with gusto with NO political repercussions....I see a Chief Justice Hillary Clinton in the future. I think she would make a great supreme court justice. | I don't think she'd go for it. The Senate is more powerful in terms of crafting legislation. She loves being in the circles of power and there are just too many restrictions on a justice being overtly political. It's a good place to go once you've been president, or your active political career is winding down, but not before. | | | |
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03-05-2008
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Originally Posted by Industrialsize I think a stronger case could be made that at the first opportunity, PRESIDENT Obama nominate HILLARY Clinton for the supreme court. She is a lawyer. Yes she has never been a judge but there is precedent for nominating a lawyer who has never been a judge. She would never have to worry about being elected again. She would be a thorn in the right's side for the rest of her life. She could push her liberal agenda with gusto with NO political repercusssions....I see a Cief Justic Hillary Clinton in the future. I think she would make a great supreme court justice. | I can see that but not Chief Justice simply because the current chief justice is a decade younger than her and will be around for the next thirty years or so. That’s one of the things that the republican presidents do really well- their SCOTUS nominees are really conservative and relatively young. | | | |
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03-05-2008
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| | | As close as they both are she'll run until Obama beats her outright with delegates period. As it should be ! This is like being down by a td or fg in football, and then just giving up at the half or end of the 3rd quarter. I believe Hillary leads with superdelegates though and Obama has delegates vote lead, both slim margins for either.
Now McCain's opposition, McCain secured the necessary votes. | | | |
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03-05-2008
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| | | since super tuesday Obama has gained 36 superdelegates.....Clinton has LOST 6...detect a trend? | | | |
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03-05-2008
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| | | She will fight to the death! | | | |
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03-05-2008
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| | | I think Obama will also come under heavy attack from the republcians because McCain would rather face Clinton than Obama | | | |
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03-05-2008
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Originally Posted by jeffery_stelesvyle There is a chance that the longer the democratic fight goes on the more people are going to be turned off by the democrats. Face it, they will have to get more negative to try and knock the other one out of the race. | They were saying on CNN that Bill Clinton didn't secure the Democratic nomination till June of the 1992 election year. If that's the case, then I wouldn't worry too much about the Clinton/Obama contest for the this year's nomination. If anything, there's no reason for Clinton to stop her campaign now. Everyone thought this was Hillary's last hurrah and she wound up resurrecting her campaign. Even Huckabee decided to roll on with a much bigger deficit in delegates against McCain until last night.
It's starting to get interesting again... Hillary is starting to gain momentum again. I wonder what's next? Quote: |
I think Obama will also come under heavy attack from the republcians because McCain would rather face Clinton than Obama
| I kinda think the opposite. If Obama wins, they could easily use the same tactics that Hillary used in order to gain some ground. They could easily attack his experience and make it seems as if he's making a ton of promises with no real plan. Grant it, Obama probably has a policy & plan for all of the things he's talked about, but at least with his now two opponents you know they have some kind of plan in place to follow or readjust. The Republicans would havea much harder time against Hillary because she would have no problems challenging McCain on the issues and his track record. They would have to resort to more smear tactics against Clinton, which means more BS about her husband lying about getting head by an intern and many other trivial things that have nothing to do about today's issues.
I still hoping against hope that the final Democratic ticket would be Clinton/Obama. Because then, Republicans would REALLY have a battle on their hands! | | | |
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03-05-2008
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Originally Posted by VinylBoy I still hoping against hope that the final Democratic ticket would be Clinton/Obama. | It may be imperative that they pair up in order to keep from cratering the party. As neither is likely to concede until very late in the game, a big question remains as to whether they'd be able to mount a sufficiently substantial general campaign in the time remaining after the convention. A lot of Democrats have major heartburn this morning, especially those who created the complex proportionate system and "super" delegates. They'll now be forced to deal with MI and FL. Sucks to be Howard Dean right now. | | | |
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03-05-2008
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Originally Posted by VeeP It may be imperative that they pair up in order to keep from cratering the party. As neither is likely to concede until very late in the game, a big question remains as to whether they'd be able to mount a sufficiently substantial general campaign in the time remaining after the convention. A lot of Democrats have major heartburn this morning, especially those who created the complex proportionate system and "super" delegates. They'll now be forced to deal with MI and FL. Sucks to be Howard Dean right now. | Yeeeee Haaaaaaaa! It's going to be a bumpy ride! | | | |
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03-05-2008
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Originally Posted by transformer_99 As close as they both are she'll run until Obama beats her outright with delegates period. As it should be ! This is like being down by a td or fg in football, and then just giving up at the half or end of the 3rd quarter. I believe Hillary leads with superdelegates though and Obama has delegates vote lead, both slim margins for either. | The two next duels are in Wyoming (a caucus, 18 delegates) and Mississippi (primary, 40 delegates).
Obama has clocked Clinton in caucuses, and Mississippi, with its large black population, is also apt to go for him.
So Clinton has to win a good two-thirds of the delegates thereafter to arrive at the convention with a lead.
But we can pretty much concede North Carolina (primary, May 6, 134 delegates), which also has a large black population, to Obama.
So the likelihood of Hillary making up the shortfall is remote.
With her ongoing slippage among superdelegates, I think her ass has been waxed. | | | |
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03-05-2008
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| | Banned | She's actually got a real chance despite the delegate count. The media has been strongly chastised for the obvious bias, and her win was in no way expected, given how much more money he had to spend. He was yesterday babyish telling refs that they shouldn't have paid attention to the accusation of 'media bias'. Of course--they had been in his favour, he liked that, and then they were called on it. If he keeps acting like a baby, and his tiresome wife keeps up her usual bullshit, a holding pattern is what she can bank on, although not guaranteed. He already cut down a lot of his 'inspiration', as Seelye put it in her NYTimes Live Blogging, even by the time he was faced with the reality of the Ohio results. No way if she didn't bow out when the Obama people tried to really push at her last week she's going to do it before trying out Pennsylvania. She's on another roll, and the Obama people are not able to be as thrilled as they'd wish. He's a 'wonky lawyer like Hillary', according to Maureen Dowd and others, which means that nobody is going to be half-literate like Bush, but he's more of a permanent campaigner and showboy than he is a born governing type ready to do the unglamorous work of hammering out policy.
She may still not win, but I've lost confidence in him, and if she does not get the nomination, I'll vote for McCain, who is a good man even if I think his policies are often full of shit. His not some little frat boy like Bush, and although I wouldn't vote for him because of his elegant wife, she certainly is a beauty.
Obama could easily become petulant, because he thought everything was in the bag last night. He has no idea what a general election would feel like, according to most. Hillary already knows what that is, and knows what is to be embarrased in front of the entire world; and yet her guts always show up at unpredictable times. I've never been more sold on her than last night. She's just plain gorgeous in that Ohio speech. The woman is fucking brilliant.
Think the talk about appointing her Chief Justice is meaningless and far-fetched, because there are no impending vacancies. Sort of like hoping they'll match up Tom and Nicole in a movie now that they're divorced--unlikely. | | | |
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