nice guys finish last

in my experience i would have to say that being a gentlemen and respectful of women has gotten me nowhere so i think i might just start being an ass, since it seems to work for all my friends

Judging on the luck I've had being said "nice guy," the asshole approach will guarantee you more pussy... also, it seems to work for my friends as well. I hate it so much, but its the way things are. Women like dominant, cocky, well endowed (money, muscles AND cock), and at times, assholish men. I've met soo soo soo many fine- ass women that go for all these douche bag men that treat them like shit and the claim that they "love them " and "can't stay mad at them." It makes me sick.

It has a lot to do with all of those aforementioned women having psychological problems stemming, usually, back to their childhood. Lack of a strong father figure, mother figure or the lack of the progression through the necessary stages of childhood up through adolescence and into adulthood. Its sad, but its truth.

Knowing that your friends are asses would you like to see a really sweet girl, whom you care for, hook up with any of them? I doubt it. Let them continue to bray, biglapinski, while you keep being a gentleman.

You'll eventually get a real lady while they'll keep getting the dregs.

YOu know there is a difference between pussy and nice

women attracted to assholes lack intelligence or are otherwise damaged.
They mistake fighting in the relationship, the yelling and throwing, for passion.

You want that kind of woman?

The kind of woman who really wants a decent guy is worth sifting thru the scads of skanks.

However... keep in mind that love is an economy, like anything else in this world.
A beautiful supportive and desirable woman has something to offer you, and she has a right to expect something in return... and I hate to break it to you, but your dick isn't it.

Men are driven by issues of desire...

But women are driven by issues of security.

Trust me, if you are having trouble with your woman... it comes down to security... ( and girls, if your having man trouble... chances are you aren't making them feel desired )

perhaps your flirting with other women makes her feel insecure about your affection... or perhaps your lack of intestinal fortitude makes her fell physically insecure... or perhaps your inablility to keep a decent job makes her feel financially insecure...

Or some esoteric combination....

So- be aware that women worth a damn really want two things from you... one is some form of security... the other is for you to make them laugh.

Men make sex objects of women, because men want to be desired by women.
Women make success objects of men because women want to feel they are in an environment safe to raise their children. They want to feel you will BE THERE for them when they are old...

There is nothing wrong with this.... its how we evolved...

A smart man, who wants a smart and attractive woman, will bring something to the table and offer it gladly in exchange for what she has to offer.



And one other thing... as I told my sons... there is no such thing as unconditional love.
If you want to be loved... you damn well better be lovable.

That was an awesome post. So many great points. I hate to see men beat themselves up over not getting women because they think they're too nice. Let's face it, while some guys go through a ton of bitches before they land a decent catch, you are missing out on a lot of shallow bitches- is that such a bad thing?

I had ZERO and i mean, ZERO, attraction to overly confident assholes. I had no interest in giving them a single minute of my time. The shy guys are where i put my attention and energy. I'd rather have a cup of coffee with a shy, quiet guy and carry on great conversation with him and bring him out of his shell. I'd rather learn great qualities from him and pace things slower because of his shyness.

The overly confident asshole tries to get his hands up your shirt and pull your pants off before he even opens the door for you. IMagine how much lying or exaggerating this guy does around his friends that makes him feel even cooler and his friends even shittier about themselves?

Why do you think these groups of guys are notorious for lying to one up one another? When you get a bit older and out of college and in the adult world you dont see as much of these uber-cool guys. People have real things to worry about like bills and mortgages and finding a good mate. They settle down or stay single.

Also keep in mind that aggressive people tend to attract more passive types, so this aggressive super cool guy is getting women who are probably having a lot harder time saying NO to him.

If you are passive in nature, which is not a bad quality, you might be interpreting your niceness as why you arent getting laid. It's probably because you are getting aggressive females who arent getting themselves in the back seat of mens cars because they have more respect for who they are.

Many of you who say these things are very young and have a lot yet to see in your life. People change as they mature or they stay single or in unstable relationships.

Also, there are some guys who try too hard at being nice or trying to befriend women thinking its going to get them laid. Women don't fuck their bestfriends or people who resemble the "brotherly" types. Women want to be paired with a person who isnt trying so hard that it makes them loose respect. I think some of you act in a way that repels women even if thats your last intention in the world. It happens to a few people out there and its a fact. Some women repel men and some men repel women inadvertantly.

Men and Boys,
Take heed of this MAN.
He knows what he is talking about.
This post should be required reading
for teenage boys who are starting to date.

What do you mean by respectful? I think women get turned on by knowing you want to be with them sexually. If respectful means you don't show a lot of sexual interest then women will interpret this as you are not attracted to them.

Also, since society frowns on women who outwardly show interest in sex, women prefer men who are the sexual aggressors. This way they don't feel guilty about the sex. The problem is some of us boys are brought up to also feel guilty about wanting sex, then we have no chance except with aggressive girls.

The conclusion is you need to be assertive and show interest, but still be respectful.

*Disclaimer: I don't know what the heck I'm talking about really!

I found this article on AskMen.com It has great indepth articles on some of the issues men face in their relationships. Here is one that address your situation. I am going to do a break out listing, but I urge you to go read the full article AskMen.com - Confidence

ARTICLE: WAYS TO BOOST YOUR CONFIDENCE WITH WOMEN

Any woman will tell you: The single most attractive thing a man can possess is confidence. But, actually getting confidence is easier said than done.

You can't buy it. You can't just "decide" to have it. And you certainly can't fake it.

So how can a guy acquire this magical trait that attracts women like a magnet? It's actually quite simple, once you know how. Here are 10 things you can start doing right now to shoot your confidence with women through the roof, and become that charming, charismatic man that all women are looking for.

1. Remind yourself that you are the catch.
2. Look beyond her looks.
3. Focus on having fun.
4. Date multiple women
5. Practice, practice, practice
6. Succeed and repeat
7. Conquer your fears
8. Do the right thing
9. Be a leader
10. Improve your image

This thread is depressing, I'm very much a 'gent' and a 'nice guy' and I think it's because of that i've always finished last and never had a sex life.

Here are two photos, the first is an average dominate male face, the second, an average submissive male face.

Photo one will treat women like a bastard and photo two will treat women like a true gentleman, I can already say nearly every woman will pick photo number one as the most attractive, even knowing he's a bastard.


http://www.liv.ac.uk/images/newsroom...4/dominant.jpg

http://www.liv.ac.uk/images/newsroom...submissive.jpg

Always been the nice guy and never done too bad....but like one poster said, you need to have confidence and not be hesitant to make a move.

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Why nice guys finish last.

Its a fact it happens alll the time and its science.

As you can see many girls like bad boys: Do girls like bad boys? - Yahoo! Answers

Any way its all to do with hormones and testosterone.

So I suggest you keep being a nive guy but make it more obvious you like the person by looking at them, paying them attention, flirting, naughty comments with a cheeky smile etc etc.