Congratulations America

Wow... and I'm sure you had similar comments around the Bush Administration appointing Condy Rice and Colin Powell to their positions???

Can't recall Kennedy, Carter, Clinton nominating some color to the most powerful positions in the US. Yeah, you and the liberal mainstream media here in the States seem to gloss over it. Understood, right.

A President really needn't get the economy, a capable, smart candidate will appoint aides/advisors who do get it. The most powerful influence on the economy, far more than any president could ever wish, is the Fed Chairman. This is basic, 101 type of stuff....

That's right, faceking. Our current record national debt has nothing to do with George Bush. Also, the current mortgage crisis, caused by massive deregulation of the banking industry has nothing to do with him either. That damn Fed Chairman!

No, no, no...you've got it all wrong, JA.

Deregulation always makes things better for the consumer, see. The Savings and Loan scandal in the 80s, or Enron's contrived power grid "crisis" in California in 2000, or the mutual fund skimming scams in the early 2000s, airlines in bankruptcy post 9/11, and now the great mortgage meltdown should all serve as reminders of the advantages to the little guy of deregulation.

It wasnt his fault. Alan Greenspan is a fucking idiot and its been his fault. The economy is supposed to naturally go up and down. Greenspan spent his whole career trying to put off the "downs" eventually he is gonna run out of time and all the "putting off" is gonna blow up and ruin our economy beyond recognition. To a point he should have just let it naturally flow some more than what he did.

Don't look now but a black man is kicking ass in some seriously whitebread states like Maine, Utah, North Dakota and Minnesota.

While I don't deny there are racists (and always will be) I think arguing the case that ours is a racist society - a la Al and Jesse - is becoming increasingly transparent. Go Barack!

QFT.

If we're going to talk about recognising a candidate for presidency based on race or gender, i'll ruffle a few feathers by stating that I don't want a female candidate to embarrass my gender by doing a shoddy job while in office.

There are a few concerns I have with Hillary:

1) Suggesting health care be mandated legally. That's not an answer to making sure health care is available to everyone and it penalises those who can't afford it. Difficult enough to find affordable car insurance and now they're checking your credit to see how much they should charge you. Wonder if that's in the cards for health care? She hasn't outlined a plan that would work, IMO.

2) She voted "yes" on the war. That bugs the living shit outta me. What the fuck was she thinking?

3) She believes the end justifies the means from what I read. That bugs me too.

That said, I don't believe gender or race should be a factor in voting. People will argue that it still matters for some people but there aren't enough of them to make a difference.

Obama impresses me more with each passing day. He may be a relative n00b but it doesn't mean he can't do the job.

1. We live in far too complex a world to disassociate decision-making and problem-solving to the extent you are suggesting. Who would want a McCain or any US president who would delegate massively important policy decisions to underlings because he/she can't grasp the problem at hand.

2. Both Hillary and Obama are smart and capable, ergo all they have to do is appoint aides/advisors, right?

3. 101 stuff? I somehow managed to make it to 909...That is probably why I am leery of simplistic answers to complex questions.

I never suggested than the US president single-handedly controlled the economy. There is growing evidence than the Federal Reserve is losing its grip on the monetary sphere as well as capitals are truly going global and the dogma of deregulation has backfired in a tragic way.

BTW: Bush's decision to mess up in Iraq had no economic impact? Where do we start? The US president can certainly mess up the economy in a trillion-dollar way!

Wow... and I'm sure you had similar comments around the Bush Administration appointing Condy Rice and Colin Powell to their positions???

Can't recall Kennedy, Carter, Clinton nominating some color to the most powerful positions in the US. Yeah, you and the liberal mainstream media here in the States seem to gloss over it. Understood, right.

Condi & Colin...granted. They certainly break the stereotypes, but Lawrence Thomas, the most despised justice on the planet, cancelled the Condi & Colin goodwill. Let's not dwell on the former DOJ head either...

The Clinton administration was exceptionally women-friendly too...(yup, all the way)

One more reason to vote for Obama.

Hillary Youtube Video

This is how I feel about it too. My state hasn't had its primary yet. I personally would have no problem with either of the Democratic candidates, but I will vote for Obama because he stands a better chance of winning and because he was against the war from the beginning. Other than that I see no real difference in ideology between him and Hillary.

Very true. Obama stands a chance of winning. Too many people HATE Hillary (not just white men and Southerners but white women too! I don't know how much of that is because she's a woman and how much is because she's a Clinton.) She would not win, unfortunately. I would have no problem personally with either of them as president, though.

Huh?

We should vote for a presidential candidate's opponent because of a cheesy electoral clip for her campaign?

Thanks to all these political threads, I can finally understand why G. W. Bush is snoring at the White House right now!

Many voters treat government leaders like Hollywood celebrities. It's all about fluff.

Congratulations! Your vote still count as 1!

She's dead. Stanley Ann Dunham Obama Soetoro was born in 1942 and died in 1995. Barrack's father, Barack Sr. was born in 1936 and died in 1982. Barack's stepfather, Lolo Soetoro is also dead (since 1987).

I think Obama is breaking down the racial walls, people are seeing that they can find hope in a person who happens to be Black. That's the beauty of his campaign.

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Ok...now. Reasons I will NOT vote for Hillary.

5. She supports the death penalty. I just can't condone that. If you killed my mother tomorrow, I'd rather you live the rest of your life in solitary confinement than be put to death the next day.

4. She has more "experience". No she doesn't. But if you look at the record of who sponsored more bills in the White House, Hillary sponsored 20. Obama sponsored almost 1000 and co-sponsored ANOTHER 1000. Who's been working harder? It's pretty apparent. (Source: Senate Record)

3. She voted for Iraq. Then she voted against Iraq. Then she votes to send MORE troops. Then she says she wants to send the troops home.

MAKE UP YOUR MIND. You flip flop more than John Kerry.

2. She has NO strategy for the Economy. And while you people say McCain doesn't have one either, I read that he does...albeit it is an old White businessman plan, but it's better than having no plan at all. Hillary hasn't even ACKNOWLEDGED a possible plan. In fact, all her other plans are so hard to even tell if she thought them out. She promises Universal Health Care...BY HER SECOND TERM?! What are you telling me Hillary? You have NO plans for your first term...which brings me to the number one reason I will not vote for Hillary. (Source: Candidates + issues matrix - Politics - MSNBC.com)

1. She is riding on the coat tails of Bill Clinton. Are you just going to be Bill's puppet? I mean, you have absolutely no plans for your first term as president. So far, you've had Bill patronize and sling mud at Barack Obama. You've had Bill call in favors and make threats to previous cabinet members...and you expect me to vote for you? You've lost all credibility to me. I'm sorry.

If Obama does NOT get the Democratic nomination. I'm voting for John McCain.


Ironically, that's why I think people are voting for Hillary. They DON'T check the issues.

Remember those parodies they did of Rudy Gulliani where he was just yelling "9-11!" at his rallies and at the debates? They should do those over again with Obama just yelling "Change! Change! Change!" because that's his entire message and he's a loser because of it.

Yes, Obama is a loser.

Not because he's black.

Although he is black.

He's a loser because he's liberal.

Not because he's black.

But liberals are losers!

Except black liberals.

They're okay.

Except Obama!

Because he's close to power and I hate it when liberals are close to power.

He'll steal from you.

Not because he's black.

Through taxes.

He's not a pickpocket and I don't think all blacks are pick pockets.

He's black.

He's a loser.

But not because he's black.

My comment was tongue-in-cheek. If you didn't get it, I can't help you.

Since I answered the OP's question, i'll assume your comment about fluff was not directed at me.