Obama and Hillary: Who won the Calf. debate

According to CNN, 60 percent of undecided voters felt Clinton won the debate. 40 % of undecided voters believed Obama won the debate.

While not stated as such, Hillary supporters think she did the best in the debate and Obama supporters felt Obama won the debate.

One thing for sure, both candidates acted professional and made it clear that either of them were way above what the Republicans had to offer in comments.

Your thoughts on the continuing Democratic debates on who is better Obama or Hillary?

They learned their lesson from the last debate that made them both look bad. Tonight they both looked great. I don't think there was a clear winner, but I think the party won which is what matters to a majority of democrats, regardless who they support. Obama didn't exactly stand out to me as spectacular tonight, I enjoyed Clinton's line about needing a second Clinton to clean up the mess of the second Bush.

Yeah I would have to give this one to clinton by a smudge, but barrack did well too. I thought they both said some good things but Hillary impressed me that bitch is in charge! They threw some nasty questions at her and she handled them well. I think it really just comes down to who you favor more. When Hillary talks of a subject she gives off this impression that she has been there done that, is experienced, with an air of confidence cause she knows she has what it takes.

Obama is a great speaker but when he gives his versions of things they just don't come across as real, like your teenage son trying to tell you about parenting. Hillary must be like "C'mon son what you really know bout foreign policy n shit." She has sat behind a President and seen how it works. But I must admit he says some good shit himself and is a formidable candidate. I think it would be nice for the three of them to run together, Billary-Obama, '08.

Obama buried his digs in high-road banter. Hillary, even on her best behavior (like tonight), makes my skin crawl. And let's not forget that Hillary is the most polarizing figure in American politics since Richard Nixon.

In my dreams I imagine McCain vs Obama, if only because it holds the promise of the most intelligent and elevated political discourse in my memory.

And strictly aside: Did you catch Chelsea? Whoever her stylist is deserves a raise.

Now now my lovely watch your language!
From what I'm told cunts are useful things and broccoli can be tasty with enough cheese sauce.
How about calling her a "steaming pile of dog vomit" instead.
Dog vomit has no redeeming qualities.

What is it about Hillary that really sets people off? Is it her past? In the debate she was a charming person.

I thought she won the debate but barely.

I believe a Hillary/Obama ticket would be unstoppable, especially since the economy is headed south. And it is now the economy, not Iraq that is number one on people's minds.

Neither of them could possibly do worse than Bush. That is an impossible feat.

It became popular to hate her, some people actually know about her past and may not like it, and they have every right to dislike her...but most people I know, when I asked them why they "hate" Hillary Clinton, they can't really give me a valid reason. They respond with something stupid like, she's a bitch. I used to be one of those people actually, but I was an ignorant teenager at the time. Then when I got into politics I learned about her more and realized it was stupid of me to think the way I was. They love to hate her, thats about it for *most*, not all people.

I think we might end up with a Hillary/Obama or Obama/Hillary ticket vs a McCain/Huckabee ticket.

If that is the case, I agree that the level of discource and debate will be very high.

Gosh, elect a smart person President. Why didn't we think of that before? **smacking forehead***

I consider myself to be a Democrat, but I feel a lot more comfortable with McCain rather than a very long list of other Republicans. I don't think Huckabee would be a good choice as VP. McCain isn't exactly a young man, god forbid something happened to him...I think a lot of people would be very uncomfortable with the idea of a President Huckabee, because of the deeply religious statements he has made. There is nothing wrong with religion, but the way he speaks makes it sound as if he wants to inject religion into the Constitution and government.

I think a good VP choice for McCain would be Charlie Crist, governor of Florida. It would be close to an automatic win in Florida during the general election. Crist is very well liked down there and a very nice guy overall. Huckabee might help McCain get votes in the south, but I think would scare away a lot of the Independents that normally have an interest in McCain.

As for the Democratic side, a lot of people have been talking about Obama/Clinton or vice versa. I don't really see that happening either way. If Clinton is the nominee, I'd love to see a Clinton/Biden ticket. If Obama got the nomination I'd like a Obama/Edwards tickets. I'd be really happy with either of those, specifically Clinton/Biden.

Yes, Biden is a smart man and really understands foreign policy. He tends to put his foot in his mouth sometimes because he just says what he thinks. But I could see him as a great VP.

Obama burned Hillary....I hope Hilary wins! GRRRRRRRL POWER =)

Interestingly, MoveOn.org polled all of its members this week and announced the results today:

A whopping 70% voted for Obama, who as a result is now officially endorsed by MoveOn.

MoveOn released some of the comments members submitted in support of their vote. Not very surprisingly, they were not about facts, figures, plans or ideas but more about "touchy-feely" impressions about Obama.

Needless to say, an overwhelming majority of the members indicated that they would support the democratic nominee no matter who wins.

Yeah, I hate there has to be loser between these two. I want them both to win. Can you just imagine those two on the same ticket. Would never have to worry about repubs again.

I wonder about that too, especially at LPSG. I could fathom ultra-righters calling her a "vile cunt" or "steaming pile of dog vomit" but such nastiness in bothersome to me on a rather progressive [liberal?] board. Is it personal rather than political? What is it?

I can't comment on the debate because I didn't watch it.