01-30-2008
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#31 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by tripod If you would actually read other people's posts then you would know that in post#16 I already explained why there is a need to tip your server in the U.S. |
Jesus post like that piss me off. Care to quote a 12 year old thread that might refer to the same question? It's rude!
Answer the post certainly but dont post quippy comments like that, there's no need.
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01-30-2008
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#32 (permalink)
| | | I hate to brag, but I'm a REALLY good tipper! It took two weeks of waiting tables to realize how much shit that servers have to go through. The other night, I went out with a friend to the bar... All I had was an order of cheesy fries and a coke. My bill was $4.30... I gave him $10. I normally tip between 50% and 100% if my total tab is under $10. I never tip less than 20% unless the service was just THAT bad. | | | |
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01-30-2008
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#33 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by tripod In America, which is what we are talking about in this thread. | Yeah, you tell those damned non- American uncircumcised communists. | | | |
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01-30-2008
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#34 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by rec3000 Yeah, you tell those damned non- American uncircumcised communists. | I just full and well know that tipping is vastly different outside of the United States, so I wanted to make my point clear by narrowing the scope of the subject.
Why don't you explain for us Americans how tipping is done in Canada? I am curious... | | | |
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01-30-2008
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#35 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Rugbypup Im English and lived in the UK for 29 years, tipping is not required or expected and the vast vast majority do not tip unless you recieve exceptional service.
People are paid for their services by their employer, not the customer. | Sorry for being slow, stuff going on.
So am and I and I've lived there longer than you - and IMO you're overstating that 99.9% massively. I have lunch in the same cafe most days when I'm in town (usually 3 days) and I can tell you far more than 0.1% of customers tip, probably nearer 40-50%. It's not atypical. Quote:
Originally Posted by Rugbypup Commission only roles are very rare due to company fears of breaching the minimum wage acts. They are usually only associated with very high profile margin jobs and i repeat, very rare.
Being paid 10% of £10,000 sale is not the same as bringing a plate of food to a table, is it? | No, but that wasn't at issue. Anyway they're not that rare and certainly not all high profile, high risk jobs, often quite the reverse. Retail and general sales are a very common sources of commission only jobs.
To illustrate, I did a 2 second Google search: Sales Executive (Commission-only) jobs Greater London jobs Sales jobs INDEPENDENT TRAINEE SALES CONSULTANTS - Jobsin
None of the above are what I would consider high profile, high margin. The last one is for a trainee in telesales.
SP is spot on, tipping is typical unless service was poor. Certainly I've no qualms about withholding a tip in the UK.
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01-30-2008
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#36 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by tripod Why don't you explain for us Americans how tipping is done in Canada? I am curious... | As my previous post implied, it's the same. | | | |
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01-30-2008
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#37 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by TattooedMamaMeg I hate to brag, but I'm a REALLY good tipper! It took two weeks of waiting tables to realize how much shit that servers have to go through. The other night, I went out with a friend to the bar... All I had was an order of cheesy fries and a coke. My bill was $4.30... I gave him $10. I normally tip between 50% and 100% if my total tab is under $10. I never tip less than 20% unless the service was just THAT bad. | God Bless you Meg!!!!  | | | |
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01-30-2008
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#38 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by dong20 Maybe you're just tight.   | Too right im tight, their paid to do the bloody job and every penny i earn goes to keeping myself off the bread line. lol | | | |
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01-30-2008
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#39 (permalink)
| | | Pretty much 20% sometimes more, sometimes less. | | | |
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01-30-2008
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#40 (permalink)
| | | Yes, I'll give you a good tip: don't bet on dead horses... | | | |
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01-30-2008
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#41 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by tripod In America, which is what we are talking about in this thread. Waiters and waitresses make around 3 dollars an hour. Would you work for 3 pounds an hour? I think not, and the servers in this country don't either, they work for the tips, it's as simple as that. | The federal minimum wage is approximately double that amount.
As for stealing from the waitperson by not leaving at least a 10% tip... the IRS considers that as average and does NOT collect more when the tip is greater than 10%.
I'm apparently a tightwad cuz, on my limited Social Security Disability budget, I "make" a lot less than those poor overworked people. I would be much more agreeable if tips weren't based on the amount of the check. I have to look at the price column before I decide what I want to order, and I don't receive any better service if I order a new york steak rather than a hot dog.
And why do people only talk to the manager when they are dissatisfied? I like to compliment good service.  | | | |
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01-30-2008
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#42 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by SpeedoMike The federal minimum wage is approximately double that amount. You obviously have never looked at the federal mandated minimum wage poster at your workplace. It was $2.09 for servers the last time I checked, they are not like non tipped wage earners... you are wrong.
As for stealing from the waitperson by not leaving at least a 10% tip... the IRS considers that as average and does NOT collect more when the tip is greater than 10%. You are CORRECT!!  | It's all good people... | | | |
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01-30-2008
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#43 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Rugbypup Ive never understood what and why Americans tip?
In the UK a tip is optional and usually only give when you recieve extremely good service, but 99.9% of the time, people dont tip and are not expected to either.
Why do you tip in America?
Arn't waiters and waitresses actually being paid to do the job anyways? It's a little rude to expect a tip for just doing your job.
It dosent make sense. | It doesn't make sense.
They get minimum wage so we are expected to make up the difference and then some. I've always resented tipping. I usually give 15%, sometimes a little more.
The owner should pay them enough so we don't have to. The benefit is the owner is making plenty of money because we are paying his staff. The waitstaff are doing really well, but the kitchen help are the losers in the deal--except for the chefs, who can do fairly well if the place is upscale.
They encourage you to drink more and buy appetizers, because that adds to the bill, which in turn adds to a higher tip for them. People also forget that the waitstaff have more than one table they're doing at a time. In an hour they may get a $15 tip from one table, $10 from another, and $5 from another. That's $30 for one hour plus their minimum wage.
I know a girl who was making close to $1000 a week waitressing when she was in college. She was working in a very fast paced diner type place near a major college. There was a quick turn around of people, very busy all the time, and she worked Friday and Saturday nights, and Sunday, not even close to 40 hours. | | | |
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01-30-2008
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#44 (permalink)
| | | I routinely tip 30-35%, because I think to myself, "that could be me trying to earn a living that way." I worked as a bartender at the Indianaoplis Colts games this past season and earned a more than generous hourly rate. I never expected to be tipped, but it was always appreciated when I was.
I have only not tipped twice in my life, and that was because the service was absolutely horrendous. I got complaint cards from those restaurants and named the location, time I was there, and the server's name. | | | |
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