I think Hillary is the next president

But does he have a real chance on winning?
It's not enough to be overly optimistic and say that anything is possible here. There are too many people in the USA that don't really think out their options thoroughly enough. They only go with the popular vote, or the one their church says they need to support.

The way this country is going, we all know that either a Democrat or a Republican is going to win. There has yet to be an independent to really grab the nation's attention for the presidency like the current people running for the Democratic & Republican nominations. I know a lot of people like Ron Paul's stance on things, but we have to be honest here. Voting for him is a lost cause. He's this year's Ralph Nader... and by saying that I'm not comparing the two based on their beliefs or their opinions on the nation's issues. They don't have enough people supporting him in any state to win any of the electoral votes. Instead of Ron Paul running on a solo platform, he should be supporting one of the candidates that can at least make some (or most) of the things they want come true. That would have a lot more impact on this election than anything else.

Well it's all very interesting...thinking & voting makes it so...time will till !

Agree... posts like those are filled with so much folly, I don't know where to being... but this rhetoric around the popular vote, I'll slash with ease.

The candidates campaign around the electoral system...

Take California... Bush knew he was going to lose it... so why bother campaigning, establishing grass roots, etc... Likewise, Republicans in California know they can't make a difference in the presidential election so why bother. So in those states, it's a case of rich getting richer... similarily another populus state in New York... why bother.

So don't post BS rhetoric that Gore won the popular vote. It doesn't matter. It's like saying the Giants gained more yards than the Patriots, ergo they deserved to win. The system is points on the scoreboard, and likewise... electoral votes. The candidates campaign around it. If anything, Rove was brilliant to help win the presidency yet not get the popular vote.

and by the way, it's the Democrats that ARE BLOCKING the vote to remove the winner take all electoral votes in California.... go figure, just as they are blocking redistricting...

First - Wikipedia has no merit whatsoever. It's filled with Peoples position, advice, and individual theories. As ive said elsewhere on here...schools don't even allow it's use because of its erroneous content.

There really aren't that many good choices in my opinion.
The only choice that I will probably vote is Hillary.

There's an aura around Bill and Hillary that the world likes.
Sure they had scandals...what president didn't? They just didnt hide it very well.
The only concern that I have is the treatment of her fellow employees.
But that's what the U.S. repubs want - a hard president.. OK...She's definitely got hard nipples!

As soon as Shrub and Co took over the US, the world turned us to their backs.

I agree with the statements that the U.S. needs something solid, concrete and familiar in very Unfamiliar times.

I do not like Obama. As soon as I saw him being Endorsed by Opra - he lost all credibility with me.
Just like "Dr. Phil". Last time I heard he had a Certificate...NOT a degree.
Why did he accept $500,000 from Opra to continue the "quest"?

"It's not a race thing". Ok....so why are we parading around as the first "Black" president.

It shouldn't be brought up if it wasn't the intent and goal.
Clearly his mission is different than what the U.S. needs.

Yay...first black president...wonderful... Ok... Uh... now what do we do?
Hmm...Not sure.... Uh.... Lots of debt...gee....not sure what to do since i've never been in charge of finances like this....Hmm... mabee hire some financial advisers....yea...thats the idea....

What a joke.

I agree... It seems that he would have had a stronger following if more people knew about him.
The Shadow that the big Buck runners have seems to wash him out.
I don't think he has enough Momentum to punch through.

In your heart....do you really think the popular vote matters?

What color do you want your sweater?

It makes me want to pull my hair out when I hear Democratic voters citing "electability" as a reason for voting for Hillary Clinton in the primary elections. You would think that their memory would reach as far back as 2004, when they gave the same reason for voting for John Kerry in the primaries. IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THAT STRATEGY DID NOT WORK OUT VERY WELL. Why not? Because once the supposedly "electable" candidate was the nominee, the only people who found him compelling were the people who just wanted Bush out of office — who, unluckily, were a minority.
I've tried to figure out what this is supposed to mean and I give up. The discussion was about voting in primary elections. In primary elections, the popular vote determines the assignment of delegates for the state at the party convention. The better you do in the primary elections, the better your chances of winning the nomination. I can't see what this "in your heart" business has to do with it.

I resent that, dude. I'm taking a more REALISTIC approach to my vote. I only got one, and I'm not going to waste it on a longshot candidate. Voting Ron Paul is like betting on a horse that has 1000-1 odds.

My main motivation for voting is change. For the last 8 years, we have been subjected to some really bad decisions by our Republican government which has left the United States as the laughing stock of the world. Our economy sucks, our enviroment is going down the crapper (and the USA is one of the major contributors to that decline), the poor are not getting the support they need to survive and the richest people in the land continue to get more money from the misery of others. Ron Paul is not going to make any changes to the USA because he has no chance in winning the presidential election. He doesn't have the support of the so-called "sheep" that you want to associate me with. And there's far more of them than people like me who actually does think about making a vote that counts.

You learn at a young age that you can't always have everything you want. Somehow, we forget this when we try to elect a president? Do we always have to go with the one candidate that supports 100% of your views even though you know he doesn't have enough support to win ANY electoral votes? To me, that's not making a statement... that's wasting a vote. We all know that either Obama, Clinton, McCain or Romney is going to win this because these are the candidates that are getting all of the press and the media exposure, and the "sheep" are going to vote for one of them. That's why I resolve to my backup plan. I know the REAL choices in this election. I at least pick the one of them that will support a good number of my most important views AND has a chance in winning. And maybe, they can get elected and make SOME kind of change to our country. Use the 2000 and '04 elections as your guide. Ralph Nader took away some key votes in each of these elections that could have prevented Bush from being in office. Everyone who voted Nader thought they were making a statement just like you are doing right now with Ron Paul. When in reality, they were enabling the forces that were in power to STAY in power. Nader only got 2% of the vote NATIONWIDE. If you totalled all of his votes and put it in one major state with lots of electoral points, he'd still wouldn't win it. But because of those "statement makers", we all had to go through more of the same old BS that we didn't want in office in the first place. And before you go on about how Dems & Republicans are the same, think about this... compare how the USA stood after the end of the last Democratic rule, versus now? Even if they are the same, we were obviously in a much better place with Clinton in office. Even with the blowjobs from the interns.

Vote for Ron Paul if you want. But don't make this an issue about "running with the sheep" because I don't agree in some radical, political fairy-tale about some guy who doesn't even have enough votes to win Rhode Island, is going to magically win the election. Reality sucks and so does politics. But it doesn't have to be so bad if you just use your head.

Whatever, dude...
I don't believe in fairy tales. And I'm content to get some of the things I want in doses, instead of putting all of my eggs in one basket and praying for a miracle. That's exactly what you're doing with Ron Paul at this moment. I believe the nation will start the road to recovery with Obama or Clinton in office. Whether or not is a slow progression or immediate is irrelevant, for I know any kind of real change doesn't happen overnight. Don't get on my case if I don't share your views, but I'm not wasting a chance to put someone in office that can at least start us moving in the right direction again.

But the very last thing you should be doing is judging my abilities to make my own decisions based on a political discussion on a messageboard about large endowments. You tell me that I should use some balls in this election. Much to your dismay, I DO have a set of balls and they are used when appropriate. I just don't THINK with them.