Foreskin problem

I totally agree with SteveHD. The majority of SirConcis's posts have had to do with a fascination with foreskins...and their CIRCUMCISION.

we should lock him up! :P
Nah j/k,
thanx for all the replies allready ! But I still don't know how to do the stretching thing ...

Much of the info you want has to do with men 'restoring' what was removed without their permission. You're only wanting to gain a teeny bit more room so should be faster and easier.

Google on Foreskin Restoration, tugging, or stretching. You might not need to buy anything at all, just do some regular tugging to get that skin going. You'll find a lot of advice and much of it is free!

This website has a lot of interesting info: foreskinrestoration.info. Also, check out the organizations NORM - The National Organization of Restoring Men or Foreskin - Are You Missing Something?. Should be able to email them about your questions too.

If you got any more questions, feel free to private message me. I'll send along some websites, etc that might be useful.

Cost-effective Treatment of Phimosis - Pediatrics

The thing they don't mention is that you can treat it yourself for free. You know how those ladies in Africa get those huge disks in their lips? Well, your foreskin is a lot more stretchable than lips. Just use something that can be washed easily. Soap and water will do - anything that will fit comfortably and can be worn for awhile. Your fingers will work of course, but that looks funny out in public. I'd try some kind of flexible tubing and then very gradually go up in size. It may take several weeks or months, but if you're like most of us, you've got a lot more time than money.

Yep, the US dr's will want to cut your skin off, don't let them! You'll be pissed at yourself forever! Do the streching, it'll work over time. try some vitamin E oil on that puppy, that will soften the skin and help with the streching.

Misinformation and lies again, dxj? You're continually amusing.

Yes, because all of the anti-circ brigade members here are physicians and they know what's best for you. Make sure you drink the purple kool aid when you visit your local chapter.

Now if you want real information go to a DOCTOR, a licensed Medical doctor in whatever country you reside. Consult several, actually, if you don't like what one doctor tells you. Whatever you do, do not consider advice from people like SteveHD, Dxjnorto, No Cal, or any of their ilk. They are NOT MEDICAL DOCTORS and do not have any business giving medical advice to you or anyone on the Internet.

Disregard what they have to say about American doctors. This is part of their smear campaign and constant proliferation of their opinion as "proof". It's only propaganda and lies.

SEE A REAL LICENSED MEDICAL DOCTOR, not the anti-circ brigade quacks who troll on LPSG.

Didier -- It seems you have little to lose trying stretching techniques. You’ve had this problem all your life and a few weeks more working with it will not likely result in sudden gangrene.

The doctor comment is simple and applies beyond the U.S. -- Doctors are humans and as such are influenced by customs, traditions, personal biases, and moods. In this country there is a history of believing that "the doctor knows best".

You simply want a doc who is considerate of the options that are desired by you.

I personally know a woman who was having surgery and the doctor "decided to do her a favor" and removed her uterus so that she wouldn’t have any more kids from her dead-beat husband. She wasn’t please but did nothing about it since people from older generations (like her) tolerated such outrages. Obviously this is not the type of doctor you would want.

Always remember that doctors are performing a service for you, they are not your masters. You essentially employ them. You control the options as long as you are conscious.

I don’t know if this is "Misinformation and lies" but certainly fits in with many bad examples of what can happen: http://www.rebel.net.au/~aldous/page02.html.

I am sure there are lots of very positive experiences to be found. A good doctor can provide a wealth of info and services. As a cut person with some problems, I have a natural bias toward foreskin preservation and I wish you well.

No medical association on earth recommends routine circumcision, but for reasons unknown, probably mostly to do with the profit motive, many doctors still perform them. Circumcision is almost never necessary, you don't need a doctor to tell you that. Because it's such an odd thing to do, there is plenty of writing about it, not only on the WWW, but books available. Opinions for whatever reason are so polarized - mostly cut guys arguing on these threads. Intact guys know they have nothing to prove and nothing to gain by getting involved.

The only two indications for circ that I am aware of are balanitis xerotica obliterans and severe foreskin injury, but even in those two cases, the surgery can be done conservatively so as to leave as much of the penis as possible. No I am no medical doctor, but I know as much about the penis as many of them and more than some. Doctors have to specialize in disease, so they treat everything with that medical model. Urologists in the U.S. are mostly cut, because most men of the age of sexual maturity in the U.S. are currently cut, so they have no personal experience of the intact penis. Besides, urologists mostly deal with kidney stones and prostates.

You quoted my post but you mentioned Jerry, so, who are you calling a liar -- Jerry, me, or both? If you're calling either/both of us liars then you've reached a new low.None of us have claimed to be physicians and the O/P would assume that. If what has been mentioned by me and Jerry is "medical advice" then so is recommending circumcision which is an irreversible surgery. Actually, that's much worse since the O/P specifically stated he didn't want that. Yet you didn't call out that as "medical advice".

Other "medical advice" that you overlooked was SirConcis stating "You [the O/P] definitely have phimosis." He stated a medical diagnosis without having examined the "patient" and presumably isn't an M.D.

You're bias and lack of regard to the O/P are blatant. It's very unfortunate that you'd bring your combative hostility to a support thread.

I reckon the direction of this and lots of other similar threads just illustrates the 'religious' arguments used to support circumcision. I say religious because there is little-to-no scientific facts supporting this procedure unnecessarily.

There is no medical reason supported by the current, international medical community (even in the USA) which supports circumcision unless there is some sort of life-threatening or unhealthy complication. And in many of those cases, non-surgical techniques are sufficient.

There is nerve tissue unique to foreskin which WILL NOT RETURN even after a 'restoration'. Be damn sure of your information before taking this irreversible step, folks. And don't be fooled: there are complications from a circumcision, especially on older males.

Definitely ask a doc, but be prepared to find one who is supportive of your decision to keep you as intact as possible.

...and before I get toasted over coals for my typos, sorry. I was pissed off.

Now I'm calm...breath...breath.

Happy New Year!

Have you looked at the medical definition of phimosis ?

The original poster stated he can retract when soft, but cannot retract when hard. And if he retracts prior to erection, the skin will be so tight as to hurt. If you cannot accept that this is phimosis, then you are the one to have problems.

A postedr here is assumed to be at least 18 years old. While unretractable foreskin can be tolerated until onset of puberty, by the age of 18, it is not normal to have such a foreskin unless one is some foreskin freak who thinks that having an unretractable foreksi which covers all of head and then some during erection is desirable and a goal of those restoring foreksins.

Yes, wiseass, I've looked at several.My guess is he does have phimosis and earlier I stated "It appears [he has] phimosis ...". But not being a physician and not having (as a physician) examined his penis, I can only make a guess. I can't say that he definitely has phimosis, as you did. Are you a physician? Have you examined his penis?

If you agree that inability to retract foreskin is phimosis, why did you try blindly discredit my post and tell everyone not to listen to what I have to say ?

Based on didier's description, he has phimosis. Period. Any intelligent person on these forums knows that no diagnosis here is "final and official".

I reallyt don't see why this discussion would have degenerated into a USA RIC debate and USA doctors happy to cut off foreskins. "Didier" is not an american name. Didier is most likely from france or other french speaking country in europe.

He came in here with a clear case of phimosis and asked what his options were. I gave him options for stretching and circumcision (full or partial).

I don't underestimate people's intelligence and knew that someone like didier, upoin reading suggestions here would then make further inquiries. It isn't as if he would take his scissors and cut his foreksin off just after reading the posts in this thread.

Yet, SteveHD reacts as if this is what he expected to happen. If you visit some of those "rabid circumcising USA doctors" the anti-circ crowd loves to talk about, the doctor will not strap the patient down as soon as the patient admits he has a tight foreksin and perform a circumcision without getting written consent from the patient.

If the patient knows there are stretching options and there are various circumcsion options, then the patient can make sure those are discussed with the doctor. If the doctor is unresponsive to the more moderate solutions and cannot explain why they are not good for him, then the patient can go to another doctor.

People like SteveHD really underestimate the intelligence of people.

Yes I went throught the same thing!! Hopefully just slowly working it back over time will work, it only took me a few weeks so hoorah, don't fret! Listen to these wonderfully insightful people :)