Under 18 = no no

Alex Chambers · 01-25-2008

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Originally Posted by 420MN

What's the difference between a girl that has began the puberty stage of her life and has her monthly period, and a girl that is 18 and is still going through her developement stage (puberty) and has a monthly period also? Even though I live in the usa I laugh when I hear somebody call us the land of the free. We have so many rules and laws that it would fill a small library with books of them. I'm not saying that I think talking or thinking about girls of a younger age than what the law says is ok is wrong or right. That's for you and you only to decide. Peace!

Speaking as one who has spent a considerable amount of time in a law library--you could fill a large library with all our laws and rules and if you think we aren't the land of the free try living in Soviet Russia, Saddam Hussein's Iraq, or even China, Cuba, or Iran right now.

Gillette · 01-25-2008

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Originally Posted by ruperty

Ironic that the thread intends for members to avoid coversation about minors, yet all people have done is talk about them!

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Originally Posted by Gillette

Minors are not to be discussed in a sexualized manner nor are there to be pics or links to them on this site.

Crucial difference.

nakedwally · 01-26-2008

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Originally Posted by Gillette

Minors are not to be discussed in a sexualized manner nor are there to be pics or links to them on this site.

This site is hosted in the U.S. making it subject to U.S. laws.
(It does not matter what the age of majority is where YOU live)

Please do not discuss in a sexualized manner any person less than 18 years of age.
Please do not post pics of someone less than 18 years of age.
Please do not post links to pics of someone less than 18 years of age.
Please do not post pictures (or links to pictures) taken of someone before they reached 18 years of age regardless of their present age.

I don't know how to be any clearer.
Thank you.

I have to side with LPSG on this matter I have a couple forums of my own that are adult oriented, but like LPSG since I am located in the US and my hosting is based in Canada I have to abide by the laws of the US and Canada, my members get really pissed and edgy and I have to explain all the legal technical stuff, I think Gillette and all the mods have made themselves 100% clear. I know of one site where the hosting account has been suspended and the website is down because they were allowing their members to upload child porn, lets not allow this to happen to LPSG. Wally

alex8.5 · 01-26-2008

The law is the law. Do not speak or write about men and women under the age of 18. It's not brain surgery. The politicians make the laws, and we all know how friggin' stupid they are.

novice_btm · 01-26-2008

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Originally Posted by THEDUDER

if i take someone 17 from virginia into dc or maryland for fun, what is the penalty?

I've forgotten their name, but there is a special law about this. It's a federal law, and it's even more serious than the initial one regarding age. Basically, it adds an element similar to kidnapping to the charges. Taking someone across state lines for illegal intent, will get you into some serious trouble.

Back on topic... Why are people spending so much time trying to find loopholes in this issue? "Can I discuss it this way...? What if I discuss it that way...? But in MY state it's..." It's the policy of this site to have zero tolerance for any sexual connection, via discussion, images, etc., to someone under the age of 18.

It's the site policy. It's to protect the site from possible legal actions/closure. Don't test the line/mess it up for everyone. Done!

Sheesh!

mindseye · 01-29-2008

I posted this in another thread, but wanted to give some insight into why we bar pictures that are freely available on other sites:

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At the time those pictures were taken, he was a minor in the eyes of courts having jurisdiction over LPSG (regardless of what the law in the UK says), and this is covered by 18 USC 2252 and 18 USC 2256 instead. One of the factors that courts have to decide is whether the genitals are shown in a "lascivious" manner; and previous court decisions have taken the picture's context into account -- meaning that a picture of a naked African child in National Geographic might get a pass, while the exact same picture in Hot African Uncut Dicks might not. Similarly, pictures of Daniel Radcliffe naked on stage may safely be posted at British Theatre Review, but put the Large Penis Support Group at risk.

Gabriel · 02-02-2008

It seems to me that the only reason people have a problem with this is because it's a "law." If that's your problem, if you have some bone to pick with "the man," or you want to stick it to society, look at it this way; it's LPSG's rule. You don't like it? Find a new board.

That simple.

Whether or not it was perfectly legal in the US, Turkey, Japan, Istanbul, Haiti, or whatever your country/province of choice, LPSG says no. Respect it.

SoCal8 · 02-02-2008

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Originally Posted by jeff black

Thank you.

See quote above.

Because it adds to the pedophiles fantasy. Talking about a young male or female, will encourage more conversation about it... soon, certain members of the group will be discussing what they want to do/what they have done with underage people, and the group becomes liable to report to the police.

Plus, I dont' think ALOT of people want to hear about sexual encounters with younger people. There are other sites if that's your Jones.

Here here, totally agree. Being a father of 3 children, I don't want to hear about any pedophiles fantasy about a child sexually. In fact hearing about it makes me want to fantasize about beating the fu*k out of the scumbag thinking or fantasizing about it!

str8curious · 02-02-2008

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Originally Posted by SoCal8

Here here, totally agree. Being a father of 3 children, I don't want to hear about any pedophiles fantasy about a child sexually. In fact hearing about it makes me want to fantasize about beating the fu*k out of the scumbag thinking or fantasizing about it!

Agreed!

frizzle · 02-03-2008

Depends on how you judge a child as seeing as let's be honest most 15-17 year olds have more sexual experience knowledge then the rest of us!

SpoiledPrincess · 02-03-2008

No they don't frizzle. The line has to be drawn somewhere and I think 18 is pretty much the only place it can be drawn, at that age most people are mature enough to talk sensibly about sex on a sex site, although if you drop by the chat room you'll see that many over 18's turn into dirty sniggering little school boys when the word cunt is mentioned.

frizzle · 02-03-2008

To be honest I don't see a problem it on a personal, but I understand on a legal standpoint so I'm not complaining.

Just remember people under 18 aren't always kids, infact all of my sexual partners have been under (between 15-17) when I was roughly the same age. I'm just exploring the debate of maturity fastening in young uns in todays society.

SpoiledPrincess · 02-03-2008

No they're not all kids, but there has to be a cut off point somewhere doesn't there? The kids I see now of 12 or so are mature beyond their years in some ways, but in other ways they're much less mature than someone in their 40's was when they were 12. They seem to be much more sexually aware, but much less able to deal with the consequences of their actions.

Gillette · 02-03-2008

Fastened to what?

frizzle · 02-03-2008

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Originally Posted by SpoiledPrincess

No they're not all kids, but there has to be a cut off point somewhere doesn't there? The kids I see now of 12 or so are mature beyond their years in some ways, but in other ways they're much less mature than someone in their 40's was when they were 12. They seem to be much more sexually aware, but much less able to deal with the consequences of their actions.

True but what I'm saying is when is the true transiction from child to adult, for me it was around 15 or 16 and think it's becoming younger and younger in children to grow up quite fast.

Under 18 = no no

Originally Posted by 420MN What's the difference between a girl that has began the puberty stage of her life and has her monthly period, and a girl that is 18 and is still going