If man (mankind) is created in the image of God then God must be

sugarandspice · 12-20-2007

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Originally Posted by blackkid

For the record God could just be Asexual.

Of course "we" aren't created in God's image, Adam was, and we are in his image, the "Image of Sin".

The word sin derives from a God of the Moon. The only God associated with the moon.The God rides in the sky in a boat that is shaped like the moon in a sliver with horns,like Diana's bow or horns. He is probably associated with the Horned God.
The snake told EVE to eat from the Tree of Knowledge and released them from ignorance and oppression of the the supposed God they were captive to.

mercurialbliss · 12-20-2007

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Originally Posted by rob_just_rob

This thread makes me think of the Pixies.

Frank Black would never approve. Too mild.

snoozan · 12-20-2007

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Originally Posted by mercurialbliss

Frank Black would never approve. Too mild.

You mean Frank Black and the Catholics?

Nrets · 12-20-2007

SugarandSpice, I love a good rant, and that is what it sounded like when you started going off about religion, but just to get one thing clear, are you saying that people from minority groups have no right to criticize your religion?
Like it takes some especially enormous balls and unheard of gall for someone on the fringes to feel like they have a right to an opinion to criticize someone's religion.

You seem to be suggesting that straight white people have more of a right than not straight/not white people.

On that note there is a punk band that wrote a song similar to what you wrote at the end of that rant. It had lyrics that may offend a few people, but hey, I didn't write it and it is pretty funny.
"Mary was a virgin so God must be a fag" followed by
"God's a fag" over and over.

dreamer20 · 12-20-2007

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Originally Posted by sugarandspice

The word sin derives from a God of the Moon. ....

Whose report must I believe?

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Originally Posted by HUNGHUGE11X7

Another piece of trivia you will not learn in church is that the word SIN was an old archery term in medieval times and it meant nothing more than to miss the mark. If an archer missed the intended target they were said to have sinned. Shocking how it later became so misconstrued isn't it ?

Nucklez · 12-20-2007

I am just a little curious as to what exactly the point of this thread was. If you didn't have a defined discussion topic, wouldn't it have been better to just keep this as a blog?

Additionally, what exactly are you trying to say? Are you just against world religions in general? The way people handle them? Their misinterpretation? Their interpretation?

Regardless of your particular beliefs, it seems to me like you have a lot of anger to deal with - its fine that something annoys you, but what's the point in posting at all if the post is incoherent, rambling, hateful, and without focus?

whatireallywant · 12-20-2007

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Originally Posted by dreamer20

Whose report must I believe?

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Here's what I got from Wikipedia. Apparently both word origins are listed!

Etymology
The word sin derives from Old English synn, recorded in use as early as the 9th century.[1] The same root appears in several other Germanic languages, e.g. Old Norse synd, or German Sünde. There is presumably a Germanic root *sun(d)jō (literally "it is true").[2] The word may derive, ultimately, from *es-, one of the Proto-Indo-European roots that meant "to be," and is a present participle, "being." Latin, also has an old present participle of esse in the word sons, sont-, which came to mean "guilty" in Latin.[citation needed] The root meaning would appear to be, "it is true;" that is, "the charge has been proven."
The Greek word hamartia (ἁμαρτία) is usually translated as sin in the New Testament. In Classical Greek, it means "to miss the mark" or "to miss the target" which was also used in Old English archery.[3] In Koine Greek, which was spoken in the time of the New Testament, however, this translation is not adequate.[4] In other research, this word has been associated with the "hem" of a garment.[citation needed]
"Sin" was also the name of the Babylonian/Akkadian moon god. Some students in recent times have postulated a connection with the modern English word "sin"[citation needed], but this is likely a folk-etymology. Note that the Babylonian/Akkadian deity name Sin is derived from the Sumerian moon god Nanna - Suen. In the Sumerian myth "Enlil and Ninlil" [4] Suen is trapped in the underworld. Sons of Enlil and Ninlil are given as substitutes to allow for the ascent of Suen.

I personally like the "to miss the mark" definition. In other words, a sin is a mistake. We can learn from our mistakes. And no one is perfect, we all make mistakes, and yes we all "sin" so to speak, but I don't think we should condemn people for that. Now obviously there are some heinous acts that we do have to punish or remove people from society for, but those are the ones that are already considered felony crimes.

But I don't consider being gay or bisexual to be a sin at all.

jack65 · 12-21-2007

Hello

Say you told your children not to play with the electricity plug because it would really hurt them, but because of there age they had no idea of what could really happen to them & even if you tried to explain what all the effects of it was, you knew that all they could understand is " that plug really can hurt you so don't play with it" ,
then say they did do it and got a a shock from it that caused some serious illness, how would you feel? and now that they have "missed the mark" would you still try and help them?.

Now say you were told that you were still like little babies when it comes to what god is all about & you need to be taught by god,much like we teach our kids about our selfs & all that we know.
Then god says don't eat that stuff from that tree because it will hurt you, because god knows that there is no way you can comprehend the end result.
The "tree" was not bad in its self, just like electricity is not bad, but can kill if used wrongly but do we stop having it because our kids may get hurt? no we teach them to respect it if nothing else. the same as the "tree"
If your not ready for the end result you may not dealt with it to your fullest ability and you may find that your just not ready.

If you start reading the bible with that attitude ( like you don't know every thing even though most of us think we do,including me)
i think we would have maybe a better attitude our selfs and others.

Lastly, god did still try to tell us that forgiveness is better then revenge, but man did not want to here it, that is why we have the laws of the old testament because man kind as a whole finds it hard to forgive,so god had to make sure we did not extract more "justice then we ought too" that is why you can only tale 1 eye for 1 eye no more, yet if we could forgive we would be so much richer.

Just my take on things, if you look at the big bang, the universe going from one point outwards, what sound can do in water at the right frequency, and so on i think you'll find it interesting if nothing else.

Thank You.

sugarandspice · 12-28-2007

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Originally Posted by Nrets

SugarandSpice, I love a good rant, and that is what it sounded like when you started going off about religion, but just to get one thing clear, are you saying that people from minority groups have no right to criticize your religion?
Like it takes some especially enormous balls and unheard of gall for someone on the fringes to feel like they have a right to an opinion to criticize someone's religion.
Wow, that is an outrageous assumption/accusation. It is rude and ignorant from anyone period. I'm saying people who are rude and ignorant should go and coitus thyself! Basically ,I mean that some people who want tolerance are bigoted hypocrites-DUH!
You seem to be suggesting that straight white people have more of a right than not straight/not white people. This statement is inflammatory bullshit.

On that note there is a punk band that wrote a song similar to what you wrote at the end of that rant. It had lyrics that may offend a few people, but hey, I didn't write it and it is pretty funny.
"Mary was a virgin so God must be a fag" followed by
"God's a fag" over and over.

I like it! Rock on! haha!!!!
Fag wasn't always a bad word so as long as "fag" is not meant to insult then I like it. I'll have to see if I can find that song.

sugarandspice · 12-28-2007

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Originally Posted by blackkid

For the record God could just be Asexual.

Of course "we" aren't created in God's image, Adam was, and we are in his image, the "Image of Sin".

Yet a cruel deabeat if he/it raped a 15 year old and then let her give birth in a barn.

sugarandspice · 12-28-2007

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Originally Posted by Nucklez

I am just a little curious as to what exactly the point of this thread was. If you didn't have a defined discussion topic, wouldn't it have been better to just keep this as a blog?

Additionally, what exactly are you trying to say? Are you just against world religions in general? The way people handle them? Their misinterpretation? Their interpretation?

Regardless of your particular beliefs, it seems to me like you have a lot of anger to deal with - its fine that something annoys you, but what's the point in posting at all if the post is incoherent, rambling, hateful, and without focus?

start your own thread and quit bitching you whiny ass
I'll post wherever I please and you are a teeny tiny insignificant minority who dislike what I write. Here's a raspberry for you

invisibleman · 12-28-2007

God needs a better public relations firm. Image is everything.

Sixofspades · 12-28-2007

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Originally Posted by sugarandspice

Gay,straight,and bisexual along with male and female.
A lot of animals exhibit gay,bisexual,and straight behavior this way too. Some animals can even change sex to have babies. These behaviors are instincts and natural similar to humans.
I have had friends who were born the wrong sex. Somehow they had a spirit that was obviously the gender they had to gotten changed to. They experienced some kind of mix up. That is the only time I would think there is some "cause" like environmental or something. I can't imagine how difficult and painful it must be for them and I am so glad they can get "treatment" for this "problem".
In ancient times before patriarchy the mother's brother was considered the closest male relative to her child. This is still how a significant number of people are raised considering the divorces and single parents. Lots of people are raised by moms and are closer to uncles than the fathers.
Another point is that were are not lobsters ,penguins,or other animals that NATURALLY have only one mate for life. It looks like only some humans naturally have one lifelong mate as well as some gay humans.
Non-straight humans are not a phenomenon like Autisms which has become prevalent.
Same sex love has been widely accepted and practiced and documented by known rulers and societies in the ancient world . Even the God Bacchus is gay along with many others.
The same religious views that supposedly are against all non-straight behavior are derived from societies that regularly stoned children for being"rebellious". They claimed that many kinds of atrocities were justified because God was on their side including slavery. Slavery is still common in the most sexually repressive cultures.
I would like to also say that I disapprove of the religious bigotry that I have seen on this site (it isn't more than in society at large but still rude) and I don't mean just towards me and my beliefs.
You don't find Pagans telling people who and how they can love outside the law of three which just represents karmic law. Whatever you do will come back to you.
If you are wondering what Pagan is. It means "of the country". People who were outside the control of the the forced religion and still practiced the "Old Religion' sometimes known as Witchcraft. I do not appreciate when someone who is gay acts rude to me about my religion. It seems like if they want tolerance they should also give it along with equality. That also goes for my friends and people I meet from formerly repressed and segregated racial groups. Some want everything phrased just perfect for their sensitivities then turn around and behave like bigots when it comes to religion. Let's all show some respect for each other.
I seen some rudeness about peoples beliefs but not a lot so far. People can say whatever they want but it still makes them assholes and/or ignorant.
I have heard some odd religious beliefs like someone finds an old rotted piece of paper in a cave and they say it is from God. I don't call them crazy on a public forum because that would be rude to the people who think old writings from caves are God papers.
another thing is that if God had a baby but didn't have sex with the mother that is OBVIOUSLY GAY!! LMAO.

I personally believe that U.S. Americans are unable to do so because, uhmmm, some people out there in our nation don't have maps and uh, I believe that our, I, education like such as uh, South Africa, and uh, the Iraq, everywhere like such as, and I believe that they should, uhhh, our education over here in the US should help the US, uh, should help South Africa, it should help the Iraq and the Asian countries so we will be able to build up our future, for us.

sugarandspice · 12-28-2007

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Originally Posted by ScaredLittleBoy

I thought this was going to be:

If man is created in God's image why are God's 'men' being circumcised? And if circumcision is part of God's image, why are we not born circumcised?

Guess not...

Good point.
Maybe God is has a giant foreskin over his whole body and uses it for a sleeping bag.
LMAO

njqt466 · 12-28-2007

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Originally Posted by ScaredLittleBoy

I thought this was going to be: If man is created in God's image why are God's 'men' being circumcised? And if circumcision is part of God's image, why are we not born circumcised? Guess not...

That would have been infinitely more interesting than the OP's inane, rambling; and unsubstantiated tripe.

If man (mankind) is created in the image of God then God must be

Originally Posted by blackkid For the record God could just be Asexual. Of course "we" aren't created in God's image, Adam was, and we are in his image, the "Image of Sin". The word sin