12-08-2007
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BedheadRed is | My daughter is almost 6 and i still bathe with her, but i am her mom. I bathed with my mom until atleast 1st grade. My mom and i still have no qualms about being nude in front of each other. My mom said i used to bathe with her and my dad until i was about 1. There comes a natural curiosity about body parts and whatnot at a certain age. My husband quit being nude around her when she was about 2, then he started wearing underwear in front of her. He stopped wearing underwear only the day she went up to him and patted his crotch and said "Oh no! Daddy pottied in his panties!" because he has a huge bulge!
Personally if i found out in my later years my dad bathed with me until i was school aged, i would be embarassed about it as a daughter. For the same reason picturing your parents have sex creeps you out- the thought of remembering what your dads penis looked like floating in the bathtub might just give you a strange feeling. Keep in mind this is from a womans perspective. I think there is more allowed between mothers and daughters and fathers and sons. Its when you cross the genders that people start to worry about the emotional/sexual development.
Im with whoever said ask your pediatrician.
Just like there are mothers who want to breastfeed their toddlers until 4 or 5 years old, they arent ashamed of it, but most people do find that breastfeeding does have a cut off point (like before your kid can scratch your boob with his facial hair) | | | |
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12-08-2007
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rusty__ is | i will leave the arguments to others but i will say CONGRATS on the upcoming son! Hope all goes well.
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12-08-2007
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bigboy_steve is | thanks every1 for ur replies and responces. me and my wife are bathing less and less with our daughter. more on my side because im startin to feel uncomfortable being around her as she is gettin older. Id never force nudity on to my kids. if one day they dont want to be seen nude infront of me and the missus thats perfectly fine and id respect that. Again cheers :) | | | |
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12-08-2007
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BedheadRed is | My daughter started this fascination with pubic hair because i've always been a shaver (up until recently) so she'd say things like this:
In the car with my mom and dad:
Says to Grandpa "My momma doesnt have any hair on her Pee Pee"
In the public restroom with my mom:
"Grandma, why do you have hair on your Pee Pee?" | | | |
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12-08-2007
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njqt466 is | IMHO The parent of the opposite sex should not be bathing with their child. If for some weird ass reason you feel you must do this It should stop by age 2. Yes, you can bathe nude with your soon to be son, but once again after the age of 2 it's just weird and a bit pervy. Quote:
Originally Posted by badboybryce You should stop bathing with your daughter ASAP!!! She is four years old and she should be able to sit alone (w/ supervision) and bathe herself. Kids are way to intelligent these days. They are born solving mathematical equations. She no longer needs to see a grown man's dick. I could not have said it better. | Quote:
Originally Posted by badboybryce I do think that YOUR bathing with your son is not harmful, but what is the point? Little ones tend to splash a lot and many parents feel it's easier to just get in the tub with the child rather than roll up their sleeves and try not to get wet. I understand this, however I see no reason why a young girl should ever see her father nude. Nor do I see a point in a young boy seeing a mother nude. Your bathing him shows your bond. He doesn't have to see you nude. Don't do it. I disagree, if he wants to bathe withe his son fine. But once he's out of diapers it needs to stop. Congrats to you, your wife, and your little girl! | Quote:
Originally Posted by rob_just_rob I don't think it's an issue when your children are very young. There is a cutoff point, of course, where the child can bathe him/herself and will start to want privacy. Opinions vary as to what that point is, although it's probably after age 4, and it sure as hell better be before age 12. | WRONG! The cut off is prior to age 4! If the child is in double digits, or knows their multiplication tables and is still bathing or showering with a parent then someone needs to call the division of youth and family services. Quote:
Originally Posted by hotmilf I say go with your heart. | At 4 he can supervise a bath; but he should not be nude in the tub with her. Quote:
Originally Posted by BedheadRed My daughter is almost 6 and i still bathe with her, but i am her mom. I bathed with my mom until at least 1st grade. As did I. My mom and i still have no qualms about being nude in front of each other. My mom said i used to bathe with her and my dad until i was about 1. There comes a natural curiosity about body parts and what not at a certain age. My husband quit being nude around her when she was about 2, then he started wearing underwear in front of her. He stopped wearing underwear only the day she went up to him and patted his crotch and said "Oh no! Daddy pottied in his panties!" because he has a huge bulge! LMAO! See that's just it. When the child is able to speak coherently, you need to stop being nude around them or they will tell complete strangers which can get you into reouble with the law. | Quote:
Originally Posted by BedheadRed Personally if i found out in my later years my dad bathed with me until i was school aged, i would be embarassed about it as a daughter. I would be mortified. For the same reason picturing your parents have sex creeps you out- the thought of remembering what your dads penis looked like floating in the bathtub might just give you a strange feeling. Keep in mind this is from a womans perspective. I think there is more allowed between mothers and daughters and fathers and sons. Yes, I agree. Its when you cross the genders that people start to worry about the emotional/sexual development. Exactly my point. I'm with whoever said ask your pediatrician. Just like there are mothers who want to breastfeed their toddlers until 4 or 5 years old, they arent ashamed of it, but most people do find that breastfeeding does have a cut off point (like before your kid can scratch your boob with his facial hair) | Oh God! Let's not get started on breastfeeding again! | Don't wonder why people go crazy, wonder why they don't.~ Meredith Grey: Grey's Anatomy Without Integrity There is No Love I'm not sure I want popular opinion on my side -- I've noticed those with the most opinions often have the fewest facts. - Bethania McKenstry | |
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12-08-2007
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Robcolt23 is | well, like the rest of you, I feel like an expert on the matter:
My father is even more hung than i am, with huge hanging testicles. I can remember being ~4 -6 and he would be in the bath tub with me, I so much wanted to touch his cock and balls. I think his nudity around me is a factor in my strong interest in penises. I remeber when my little brother was in the tub, (all 3 of us together) and my brother (he was about 2 at the time) reached out to touch my fathers cock, my father said no and pulled away. I remember being embarased by all of that..... but I secretly wanted to touch that big cock also. How in the hell can I remember all of this? wow!
Even now Dad is not modest at all. When I visit my parents, I usually get to see him in the bath tub with his big cock and balls floating in the water. I would rather not have this memory of my father. BTW, I have never seen my mother nude. | | | |
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12-08-2007
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rob_just_rob is | Quote:
Originally Posted by njqt466 WRONG! The cut off is prior to age 4!
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Where'd you get your medical degree? Your certification in paediatrics?
Thanks for your knee jerk opinion. Back to ignore for you. | | | |
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12-08-2007
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SpoiledPrincess is | I think it's fine to bathe with your childen up to the age where they give out signals they're no longer comfortable you seeing them naked (and they make it very clear when they consider they're too old to be naked) or you're sick of them taking up all the room in the bath. The human body isn't something to be ashamed of and letting your kids see you naked day to day in non sexual situations teaches them what is appropriate (eg it's fine for mum and dad to see them naked, it's not for most other people) and if you screech like a girl if your kid catches you naked it sends out the message that bodies are dirty. I bathed with my kids until they were about seven or so, it was easier, one lot of bath water and I didn't end up with soaked clothes from washing and drying duties. They stopped bathing with their dad (although it was infrequently that they had, he found it a pain) when they were about four but not for any reasons that it was 'indecent' or wrong, just because he enjoyed his bath more when he had it to himself. I loved bathing with my kids, we'd soap one anothers hair and do sonic type hairstyles, play wih bath toys and have a general good time. | | | |
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12-08-2007
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Whopper-lee is | Hi
I may have read to quickly your thrend on this.
But I have rasied a very large family of kids.
And let me say there was only 1 bathroom, 1tub, 1sink no shower... many kids to bath.
Not a probably when very young (both sisters and bros alike) in to same tub= 2 at a time even...supervised with audult or oldest elder child adleast 13 yrs of age watching.
I bathed with my boys (when babies) occassional one at a time in time with me up to 2 or 3 yrs old.
But now my girls...I think a father should let that her bath with mother's supervision and care....and 4 yrs old....no no no.
A good age to gauge little girls and give them their little respect is after well potted trained.
Girls/women bath different from boys/men.
Each must learn from role modeling (get my pt)
Girls learn much faster than boys and become very body conscience & in tune with their bodies faster.
A female is aware.
Girls also have an innate nature to be drawn to dad that can easily go wrong with a relationship that is to close and wife like mama...I'm talkin about as early as 4 to 5 yrs old. Be wise and careful.
Girls pattern/copy after mama well.
Now boys slow as hell.
If they don't make them any difference who gets them to the pottie and the wee wee out if they can't. LOL They just "GOT TO USE IT! cute
til they start pissing on themselves everywhere.
Alway good to have a father or male image/role model around to pottie train a boy(s).
It does speed their developement up with in this area bathing.
Believe it or not boys will watch fathers pass the age of 20 if still in the househole as a role model of self care....shaving, haircuts, neatness from finger nails to toe nails (important too).
So, I'm going to stop here by sayin children need to see as much a & many things as they can see in their proper & relavant percepection of males/females methods of being alike as well as unalike.
And don't fool yourself.
If you around your wife or lady when PG would you believe that unborn child knows father's voice waves from mothers. It is absolutley remarkable.
Think about it, even the lowest forms of amimals & insect world has the abilitiy.
Balance what and how you teach your child and what you expose them to.
Their tiny little brains come here pre-wired. It's up to you to guide it into the proper channels.
It can very well be why so many young individuals are confused from having simple manners to serious issues with sexual ID.
Experiments have been conducted & proven that you can raise a baby kitten and bady dog puppy together.
If you train that kitten to the litter box and the puppy observes and you don't train the puppy to news paper or sratch the door for out side...
that puppy will go to the litter box just as that cat.
I know cause I did it with my pets.
So you get some of my pts here.
Good LUCK DADDY!
Follow your heart for traning.
Remember this that always has got me thru with my children:
My motto: "Let not the young be misled, for common sense is not so common if not said..."
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jason_els is | God what a difference between Americans and the Europeans!
You do realize that Scandinavian families all sauna together nude at all ages and they're easily the most stable and progressive society in the world. Whole families live on sampans in Kowloon Harbor in Hong Kong. There's next to no privacy at all. Throughout the world aboriginal people don't just see each other nude, they are nude most of the time!
"Hi mom! Like my new penis sheath?"
Nudity is what you make of it. If it truly is not a big deal to you then it's fine for your kids to see you nude up to the point they do not want to and that point may never arrive.
The problem is when parents try to be something they're not. Kids will pick-up on the subtext of unease so don't try to be cool with nudity if you're not. That's mixed messages. I know I would have issues with a daughter seeing me nude but wouldn't give a damn what my son saw at any age. That's me and that's what I'm comfortable. To try to force myself to be comfortable with a daughter would be a mistake though I wish I could be more comfortable with it than I really am because I truly know and understand that nudity is NOT sex despite my raving fellow countrymen who are certain I'd be scarring my children for life. Sadly I'm saddled with puritanical baggage. Maybe if I moved to The Netherlands or Sweden I'd be different. Until then I have to go by only what I truly know I'm comfortable with. | "The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." -Bertrand Russell | |
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12-09-2007
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lewis27529 is | I take showers with my two year old son when i'm in a hurry. I use to do it a lot more frequently when he was younger, but not so much anymore. I think 4 is a little too old. But like other people have said... do what feels right.
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b.c. is | Spoiled P and J els are right on with their observations. There are cultures and places where family nudity is a natural occurence. Not to mention nudist beaches and parks where people of all ages bathe, swim, etc. fully nude. It's no biggie because (as nudists are given to saying) "nude is not lewd".
Do what's right for you and your family.
(And never, I repeat, never ask people on the internet how you should live your life.) | "What are you doing?" "Screwing the earth." | |
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12-09-2007
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SirConcis is | I don't ever recall parent being nude with me for bath. But I recall being in bath and parents bathing me.
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And at one point, I told them I was old enough to do it myself, and they reluctantly agreed after a few times my asking.
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When the kid is a baby, it is probably good for the parent to be in the bath with the baby to make baby feel "at home" close to the parent and feel more comfortable in the water since the parents are also in the water.
<p><br> and being in bath with baby implies being naked.
<p><br>I think there comes a certain age where a dad shouldn't bathe with daughter, but could still bathe with son (and vice versa with mother), and then later on when it isn't really good to have parent in the bath with the kid. For one thing, as they grow and start to sit in bath, presence of an adult woudl make things quite cramped in the bath.
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If your goal is to get your kid as autonomous as possible in the bath, then the time to stop bathing with kid will come naturally for you. Then you just bathe kid from outside the bath, then just supervise kid and let kid do it him/herself.
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SirConcis is | Quote:
Originally Posted by jason_els You do realize that Scandinavian families all sauna together nude at all ages and they're easily the most stable and progressive society in the world. | The sauna situation is simple nudity. It is a social gathering
Giving a bath to a child involves very close proximity and parent taking care of the child's body. So it is a very different type of event.
Consider the difference between father and son being at pool and both taking showers naked. No problem there at any age. And each takes care of his own body.
But in a bath, the parent touches the kid's body. And there comes a time when the kid's sexuality starts to awaken, at which point, you want the bathing to become as "hospital/asexual" as possible so you don't want to be naked in bath with child anymore.
Consider a father/son relationship. About the time the son starts to bathe himself, it is probably a good idea for the father to show him how the foreskin retracts on a adult penis (especially if son can't yet retrtact his skin). Or explain why the dad is circumcised and son isn't. (sonce the son would have noticed the difference).
br> But such talks probably signal the time where it is no longer appropriate for parents to be naked while giving son/daughter a bath and start to give the child more and more privacy/autonomy in bath. | | | |
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