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Y do Gay men have RACIAL HANGUPS?

I;m black and mostly ino dating outside of my race... Y is it that there are so many against the color of my skin?

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Old 11-25-2007   #1 (permalink)
ibreak4LARGE is offline
Y do Gay men have RACIAL HANGUPS?

I;m black and mostly ino dating outside of my race... Y is it that there are so many against the color of my skin?
 
Old 11-25-2007   #2 (permalink)
Daddy Lucas is offline

Not me! i am very attracted to men of color. I'm sorry that you have met a few idiots that are ruining it for the rest of us! Black men ROCK!
 
Old 11-25-2007   #3 (permalink)
Mattness is online now

Just like you can't make generizations about "Why do all Black people do this..." you can't make generalizations about why all Gay men do something. You've met a few HUMANS who were not into you as a person.

Move on and stop righting it off as a RACIAL issue - you will find someone eventually...be positive and maybe YOU are the one with the racial issue! Be yourself and you will attract someone wonderful. Good luck.
 
Old 11-25-2007   #4 (permalink)
ibreak4LARGE is offline

Obviously I've had more experience to even ask the question. Its more than a few times, and if you can't give positive feedback or even know something of the topic leave it alone.
 
Old 11-25-2007   #5 (permalink)
Industrialsize is offline

Quote:
Originally Posted by ibreak4LARGE View Post
I;m black and mostly ino dating outside of my race... Y is it that there are so many against the color of my skin?
Well, it sounds like YOU have racial hangups......
 
Old 11-25-2007   #6 (permalink)
speshk is offline

I have several black friends who are doing well dating. I'm not saying there aren't biases working against them, but it may be in how they carry themselves. They seem to be very confident. Being good looking helps, too, I'm sure. Hmm, the same reasons some of my white friends do well . . . Oh, I don't know!
 
Old 11-25-2007   #7 (permalink)
Mr. Snakey is online now

I dont thing they have anymore Racial Hangups than any other group.
 
Old 11-25-2007   #8 (permalink)
northwestone is offline

the hand of racism strikes in unlikely places...i think people who like you BECAUSE you're of a different heritage are just as guilty of racism as those who dislike you for that reason. exotification of racial stereotypes is just as damaging to multiculturalism as all out racism.

and Mattness...I can't see the word ALL in ibreaks thread, perhaps you should try reading before you start telling people what they can and can't say?

and like it or not racism is a HUGE issue in the gay community, in a very similar way to homophobia is in the black community. I think partly because people think that ONE thing that makes you a minority target is enough..
 
Old 11-25-2007   #9 (permalink)
speshk is offline

I have several black friends who are doing well dating. I'm not saying there aren't biases working against them, but it may be in how they carry themselves. They seem to be very confident. Being good looking helps, too, I'm sure. Hmm, the same reasons some of my white friends do well . . . Oh, I don't know!
 
Old 11-25-2007   #10 (permalink)
dj4143 is offline

hi, i'm going to respond to this... and i realize that this isn't necessarily the response you're looking for :) sorry :(

i would say it's all a matter of personal preference, and that everyone should distinguish between people being accepting of all races on a personal level and a sexual level. i hope you don't become one of the many (!) guys out there who try to use guilt in a situation like this. like people who tell you that you're a racist if you only are attracted to white guys, or guys who list for their ethnicity on a dating website "this shouldn't matter" or put links on their profiles with graphics stating "end sexual racial discrimination"

i think the simple answer is that we are all human beings, and we are entitled to our own sexual preferences. i would never in a million years not befriend a black person or an asian or treat them with the same respect i treat everyone else. but there is a difference between owing people basic human rights and owing someone sexual attraction... first of all, you can't force physical attraction... and second, it is within a person's right to choose the people that he/she likes physically

(just for the record, i am not on any level accusing you of being this type of person, but i'm just lamenting, because this is something that has been bothering me for awhile, and this seems like a good place to discuss it)

i've talked ot guys before online, realized they were of a different race, and they have given me a lot of sh*t for it. of course i have never said "oh i don't like you because you're XXX." but after we exchange pics, and the conversation kind of dies down, sometimes people will accuse me of "it's because I'm XXX race, right?" The fact is, as soon as I discover that someone has red hair or is shorter than me or has no muscle, or is 20-30lbs underweight for his height (like i think 80% of the gay population !), i'm not attracted to that either. does that mean i am racist against people with red hair? or short guys? or guys over 35? No of course not! It just means i have my own physical preferences, and that's ok. Will we get to the stage where gay rights have come so far that a gay guy will accuse a straight man of discriminating against the gay man's sexual orientation because the str8 man likes women?

What is not OK is trying to use guilt to coerce someone into hooking up with you when there is no attraction. What is the implication here? I owe someone a blowjob just because he's black and i don't tend to be attracted to black guys? Or that I'm not entitled to have my own taste preferences?

and for that matter...what about the expression "once you go black, you never go back?" do white guys accuse girls who say this of being racist against the white man? i've never encountered that... And plus, there seems to be a lot of guys who like just the reverse... Blacks, Latinos, and Asians especially seem to get a lot of attention as desirable sexual mates.

Again, i know my reply is kind of off topic from your post, and i'm not accusing you of being this kind of person. But I hope that you stay that way :) and that we can stop the guilt parade every time someone suggests that he likes guys of his own race... it's really pretty offensive and has no grounding in human rights whatsoever!

again sorry for being off topic
 
Old 11-25-2007   #11 (permalink)
northwestone is offline

there is one question that begs asking iBreak, why are you mostly into dating OUTSIDE your race?

just a thought....
 
Old 11-25-2007   #12 (permalink)
ibreak4LARGE is offline

i don't have racial hangups, i just love the contrasts in skin colours. I love all human form. I just notice in alot of dating sites i see statements that say things like i only like latino or white, then says if your black don't waste my time or yours. i see that quite frequently. just made me wonder Y it was even said after they said latino/ white only.
 
Old 11-25-2007   #13 (permalink)
thediscobiscuit is offline

Sorry for being slightly off topic here but I think it's so funny how everyone is allowed to be racist except white people. Could you imagine if they made a movie called 'black chicks' or if people in the ghetto were defined as 'black trash'
There would be race riots...
...and looting
...probably

Actually, do it!
I need a new TV!
 
Old 11-25-2007   #14 (permalink)
ibreak4LARGE is offline

wow, please stay on topic... i give a shit about those other issues here. just trying to figure people train of thought about sex and colour. and Y we still think this way.
 
Old 11-25-2007   #15 (permalink)
jacknthebstock is offline
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I believe you have had bad experiences. It is sad that people still have a distance towards different cultures. I believe you are asking about gay men exclusively because you yourself are gay and this directly affects your relationships.
Unfortunatley you have encountered men who have reinforced your disbelief in gay men, until you recieve positive experiences it will be hard for you to believe that there many truley interested people to meet.
People of all genders gay str8 bi have members who are positvie and negative, it seems that you have had somewhat of a limited avaliability to the positive.
Perhaps you can widen your search for resources of meeting people by trying a new location, search the web for groups that share your interests, ask your friends for new contacts. Most importantly don't let these negative experiences cause you to to see only to see the bad when you think of gay men. After all it is those who have judged you did so because they too have generalized the black community for the negative stereotypes they have been taught to believe.
My thoughts go out to you. I hope this helps.
 

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