11-19-2007
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#16 (permalink)
| | | I think you are both right lol
I think she wanted an all-consuming relationship
with absolutely no sex
and I just wanted a casual friendship (I never stop learning, and being surprised at, how much I have to explain everything all the time)
while we were friends
she was also having a ridiculous on/off emotionally damaging
sexual affair/obsession
with a semi-famous rock-star ....
I seem to attract people with problems (maybe because I have also had some problems) | | | |
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11-19-2007
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#17 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by naughty I dont think it is that simple. He represents what she is looking for. She hears him and doesnt here him when he tells her he is gay. He may be gay but he is still providing all the things she is looking for in a relationship (minus sex) . She doesnt have to be a woman who habitually hangs out with gay men. People do the same thing with someone who has told them they just want to be friends. | Maybe there is something wrong with how my brain works inconjunction with my heart. Either that or I must be the weirdest woman on the planet. On the rare instance when I have expressed a romantic interest in a gay man. When he told me he was gay, I was able to shut off those romantic feelings. In my mind, falling for a gay guy is as pleasant and useful as spitting into the wind. In the instance of a straight man telling me let's just be friends. I usually just bail as it is far too painful to be his friend when he is dating other women who aren't anywhere near as good for him as I would be. | | | |
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11-19-2007
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#18 (permalink)
| | | that sounds sane and healthy
but most people are not sane and healthy | | | |
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11-19-2007
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#19 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by njqt466 - When you break up with a person, how do you do it?
I used to suggest them to be stationed permanently at Elmendorf AFB, AL, or maybe Minot, ND. Just kidding. My favored way of braking up is being straightforward about it. The reason in most cases wasn't as grave as cheating or betrayal, let's just say that mostly my fear of relationships struck, and I was clear to my partners about that. If it was only a sexual relationship, the quitting was even easier: Just drop it.- Do you have a standard technique?
Probably unconcsciously. Since 90 % of my relationships occurred during my service time, and most of those were with other service members, the coward's way out by just moving out and leaving a note didn't work, earlier or later we'd bump into each other again. Most of the time I was just openly telling them that I didn't want the relationship to last any longer, and that's it. I won't cause drama, I am in as little need of that as they might be.- Does the technique vary depending on certain variables, such as duration of relationship, cheating (by either of you), or something else.
I always used above technique, of course the duration, or even more the depth of a relationship has had its effects. But the general procedure remains to be the same.- Do you plan the break up or do you just blurt it out over the dinner one night at home?
I plan the break-up, but not too long in advance. Acting on an impulse can lead to mistakes, so when I used to get the feeling that a break-up was near, I took some days to see if it was just an impulse, or really the end of a relationship. And then I took my time to tell my partner, but not blurt it out. | . | | | |
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11-19-2007
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#20 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by njqt466 Maybe there is something wrong with how my brain works inconjunction with my heart. Either that or I must be the weirdest woman on the planet. On the rare instance when I have expressed a romantic interest in a gay man. When he told me he was gay, I was able to shut off those romantic feelings. In my mind, falling for a gay guy is as pleasant and useful as spitting into the wind. In the instance of a straight man telling me let's just be friends. I usually just bail as it is far too painful to be his friend when he is dating other women who aren't anywhere near as good for him as I would be. |
Now why would you say something must be wrong with you when clearly you think quite the opposite! LOL! I am glad you are able to do that. Just some others are not. It is just the difference in how people are wired. Not good not bad just different. Yes the lets be friends thang is problematic at best. Lets face it . You are rejecting the person for some reason. You may not even wish to go there because it may not be PC but it is there. I think that some individuals genuinely care for the other person but they just might not be the one but they dont want ot lose the connection. I had one person tell me he had enough friends. I said Excuse me! LOL! This was someone I ahd been friends with in college who just showed up 15 years later and started moving straight to the wedding track without my knowledge or consent. It happens. | | | |
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11-22-2007
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Originally Posted by str82fcuk;1114937[FONT=Arial ]i once had a strictly non-sexual friendship with a girl which morphed into an emotional relationship from hell with a really fucked-up poor little insane bitch ... i started off being too nice and helpful and considerate and then she got hooked and dependent and demanding and controlling and judgemntal and interfering ... i had to call it off many times in person by phone and by email and she still woulddnt get the message ... i kept not responding or sending shorter messages but that made her send longer ones until finally i sent a one word message 'stop' and then she did stop emailing me but she still stalked me ... she would not let go or close even though i never promised her anything[/font] (actually i've had this problem with a couple of girls ... i dont know why ... because i'm always upfront about being gay) | You sound like me. In grad school, a similar type of woman "selected" me as her "best friend." After strenuous attempts to decline the "honor," I gave up and let her spend time with me. For about two years, off and on. Yes, I was weak. I eventually had to tell her the truth--that I'd always thought she was crazy, from day one--before she became offended and broke the "friendship" off with me. NCbear (who's damned glad he found a way to get rid of her)   | | | |
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11-23-2007
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#22 (permalink)
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lucky you. when I told this 'friend' she was crazy that just set her off even more sending long emails complaining about my insensitive choice of words. I guess I am not very good at making or choosing friends maybe because I am always so outspoken about being gay (even tho' I never go to gay clubs) that I always just attract these girls who want someone sensitive with absolutely no chance of there ever being anything sexual ....
anyway after several years of 'friendship' in which all I did was give give give listen listen listen help help help and after also having the added complications of her parents and her alcoholic boyfriend I finally grew enough balls to cut her off ... somebody should have given me lessons in friendship but at least I did learn a lot from that nightmare | | | |
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11-26-2007
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#23 (permalink)
| | | Well, think of it this way: SHE GONE NOW.
:high five:
NCbear (who still is damned glad he thought of a way to get rid of his needy, clingy, obsessive-compulsive, codependent "friend") | | | |
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11-26-2007
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#24 (permalink)
| | Banned | Relationships between people who are prone to depression or who have the personality to be stalkers often lead to bad break ups.
Did I just blow your mind? | | | |
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11-26-2007
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#25 (permalink)
| | | im usually the asshole when it comes to breaking up idk why but i am | | | |
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11-26-2007
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#26 (permalink)
| | | if your with someone for 14 years......do you tell them one day you love them then the very next day leave them?.........this happened to me approx 8 months ago and caused a great deal of stress and worry to me as i dont have answers as to why......ocassionally we still chat but i am not allowed under any circumstances to ask why he left which is very very frustrating for me.........i consider myself a good guy and gave 100% sexually,emotionally and financially throught our time together.....i cant get any answers why he left and i feel it is bad for anyone to do this to someone they "supposedly loved" as their is no closure really..........after almost 8 months totally alone ive taken steps to move on and put the past 14 years behind me and by joining this forum im hopefully putting myself in the favourable position of making a fresh start and finding someone new........please folks if your leaving your loved one the best you can do is explain to them why you made your choice and dont leave them in limbo wondering why. | | | |
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11-26-2007
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#27 (permalink)
| | | There are no victims, only volunteers. The majority of the friends that i have who complain about being dumped aren`t willing to look at the part they played in the relationship and thus are doomed to repeat the same stupid crap.
I have some friends who will dump you in a heart beat for fear of rejection or comitment, they can`t seem to make their mind up on which.
People only stalk because chances are the person their stalking treats them like shit and for some sick reason the person stalking feels that`s what they deserve.
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11-26-2007
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#29 (permalink)
| | | I love this topic njqt!
I ALWAYS break up face to face. I point out the difficulties that we have been having together. I tell them how I feel about the relationship and why I don't feel it is working anymore. I give them a chance to tell me what they think of me, and that's rarely pleasant.
Closure is absolutely important. And sometimes this strategy has yielded friends down the line. I have exes who actually speak to me and still like me. That doesn't always happen.
It's really too bad more men aren't good at breaking up with a partner. I think a lot of it has to do with being afraid of hurting the other person, and even just bad communication skills. Believe me, you do a favor for the one with whom you are ending a relationship if you meet and talk it through. You get closure, the other gets closure, and then both of you can move on with clean slates. | | | |
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11-26-2007
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#30 (permalink)
| | | I have friends who stalk people. In fact, I have gone out with them while they were on stalkingmissions. I have driven the get-away vehicles, I have waited with cab drivers, I have spoken to new fiancees and wives, I have helped guess paswords, I have stood guard while vandalism occurred. I have tried talking them out of it, I have tried calling the cops on us. I have had many, many lengthy conversations.
And his reasons are sooo, sooo right. These beautiful, dynamic, intelligent, resourceful, seemingly normal women went nuts, and though they could not see it, they were stalking men who abused them, lied to them, disrespected and disreguarded them. The worsethese men treated them, the more likely they were going to be stalked. Why? Clearly my friends didn't believe they deserved better.
All but one have broken out of this sick habit, and the one that hasn't just seems to miss the days when she didn't know where her man was. She now has a good husband who never hits her, comes home every night, helps with their baby, buys her whatever she wants (or encourages her to buy it herself which is the same thing really since nearly all of their money is really from her dowry) and protects her from harm. He's not perfect by any means, but a woman could do a lot worse. But she's still stalking her ex. We thought she'd stopped years ago around the time all the other girls outgrew stalking, around the time she got engaged, or at least by the time she got married and she and her husband got busy running the store her parents gave them as a wedding present. But no. She's not done. A friend of mine went out with her a few months ago, and it turned out the restaurant this woman picked (which was awful and over-priced) was owned by the ex we used to help her stalk!
Why is she still stalking this man? Because she never felt she deserved to be as happy as she is. She had a hard time conceiving, and spent years and hundreds of thousands getting pregnant. And no sooner did she come home with a healthy baby, than she started stalking the ex again. I know this girl, and KNOW it to be FACT that if she were suitably miserable inher marriage she could finally be unhappy enough to stop looking for her ex's new businesses, and stop following he and his wife around like a creepy psycho. | | | |
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