Chemistry Nightmare (warning: rape, violence)

Originally Posted by Elro

I respect the author's right to write about whatever he wants, even if it's not my thing (I've explained it, by the way), but what shocks me in this story is that Gonad applied himself to make us hate the protagonist...

Which may be writer's trick or technique in its own right, but doesn't compel anyone to read on. I had to force myself to get through even such a short piece. This author should probably be well advised to change that if he wants readers, especially if he undertakes something longer.

Originally Posted by cyrus

How vulgar you are. The polite term is surprise sex.

Originally Posted by Elro

It's just terrible, just plain terrible. It's not that well written, but even the content is vile... I mean, a frustrated guy with a small dick, everyone laughs at him, he ends up perving on people and raping them, and in the end he has no dick and no sex life. In the end, the woman just feels sorry for him, and of course he doesn't even tell her how mch of a perv he is.

Originally Posted by Elro

I know we're all more or less obsessed with cock on this website, but this is taking it to a whole new and unhealthy level, far beyond even humiliation.

yuck.

Originally Posted by kundalinikat

I don't think you should listen to people who read a story with the words 'rape' and 'violence' in the subject line, which begins with another warning, and then complain that the story contains rape and violence. Who forced them to read your story?

I thought the character was believable, his motivations and reactions. I curious, what is the other site you write for?

Originally Posted by btrelll

Yes, so long as you warn people, it's totally fine to get off on rape.

Twat.

Originally Posted by Elro

Since I apparently have to explain exactly why this story is crappy, here it goes :

Seriously, this is fucked up. I'm not shocked at the rape and violence theme... It's not my thing, but here ARE some stories out there with forced sex. It's some people's fantasy, and as long as it's just a fantasy, well... Whatever. There are even stories about humiliation of a guy with a small dick. Again, not my thing at all, but whatever gets your rocks of...

However, this is purely gratuitous out of the blue perversion. I mean, the guy is small and laughed at by the women interest. In order to get bigger and please her (as if she was going to date him again...), he hurts hmself by taking an untested drug AND fucking up his job as a scientist (cause he steals it, you know).

He gets so worked up and frustrated that he becomes a flasher (I can't even begin to tell you how wrong it is and how poorly anyone would identify with this guy), but the lady confronts him instead of fearing him (I don't know, did he expect her to like it ?) and almost destroys his entire genitalia.

It's just bad on so many levels, I WANTED this guy to be utterly destroyed at that point and teh story to end there. Still, I kept on reading, because it was short enough and maybe teh guy somehow got better and healthier in the mind later on. No such luck.

Does he realize anything's wrong ? noooo... He rapes some girl. Then he tries to rape the woman interest, but again, his genitalia end up destroyed, irredeemably this time. Then, the girl, out of the blue, takes pity on teh guy and marries him... Not like she has anything to fear, now.

It's not just "guy gets it up, gloats at how big he is, has forced sex, partner end up liking it anyway...", no, it's nothing pleasing at all, not to him, not to his partner, not to the reader. There's a lot of violence on TV, but usually no one gets his dick destroyed, and no one somehow ends up an emasculated lying pervert just because he meant well at first.

Morals ? I don't see one, except maybe "guys who want a bigger dick to please their mate are deranged, and end up dickless anyway"... Certainly no one will identify with that kind of hero, and I'd pity anyone who would jerk off to THAT story.

Oh, and you know what cracks me up ? In the end, he says it's all right.

There you have it. Let me sum it up : gratuitous, unbelievable, complete anti-hero that you can't help but want to put out of his misery, a rape unpunished, and no pleasure at all for anyone.

Maybe, just maybe, this story belongs to this new genre of trashy books, along with some of Chuck Palahniuk's work... Anything about a pervert druggie flasher rapist just being himself and getting tortured for no reason. That isn't what I'm personnally inclined to read, and that isn't (to the best of my knowledge) what this site is about.

Originally Posted by cyrus

Exactly! Let's lock him up because he wrote a story with content of which you don't approve!

Originally Posted by SpoiledPrincess

I didn't like the story, but a piece of erotic fiction is often an exploration of how we feel about certain aspects of sex, sex often does contain a violent element and that element can be magnified in a story to explore it. Writing about something isn't a personal endorsement of what the writing contains.

Originally Posted by hotmilf

Agreed, SP. Give the author a break. There are a number of erotic fiction sites online and this story is PALE compared to some of the stuff out there.

Who are we to get uppity about this stuff? It's FICTION! It was in the FICTION area...

Or do we disapprove of all things SMBD or "out there"?

Originally Posted by socoken

"Hey, dont touch that boiling water! Its hot! You are going to burn yourself!"

-puts hand in water-

"Oh my God! I burned my hand! Who dare boil this water! How irresponsible!"

Originally Posted by wldhoney

I agree with Spoiled Princess, HotMilf, and ganja4me. For myself, I actually appreciate someone going outside the social restrictions, the ability to be imaginative. I have a friend who writes incredible stories and some of them are very twisted, but I appreciate them for what they are. Think of the outcry against Catcher in the Rye. Groups that have had Harlequin Romance bon fires. The plethera of horror and butcher movies and violent video games. We all have different tastes as to what we find "entertaining".

Originally Posted by cyrus

Let's burn her too! How dare she speak highly of a story based on rape???

Oh, the horror!

Originally Posted by btrelll

Oh don't try to be smart. There is a huge difference between the examples you use and this attempt to glamorise and enjoy rape.

This has nothing to do with freedom of speech and no amount of trying to appear learned or deep will change that or make you appear intelligent.

Originally Posted by kundalinikat

I want to say this clearly... YES it is totally fine to get off on rape. Obviously. You twat. Did you forget to draw the line between image and act, between getting off ON rape and getting off VIA rape? I will admit that when I imagine a lack of consent from my girlfriend, I am damaging my girlfriend - the imaginary girlfriend in my fucking head!! (My real girlfriend, by the way, also enjoys rape fantasies [oh and she has used THE DREADED R WORD when describing them] and I am even happy to oblige her to some extent.)

GMAFB (or Give Me A Fucking Break). In conclusion to my non-sequitur reply I present a selection from my favorite sex-advice column, Savage Love (by Dan Savage).

"Women's rape fantasies come up pretty frequently in the column, but men's rape fantasies don't come up so much. I am a mid-20s straight woman who dates a lot. Even though I occasionally fantasize about being raped and I make it perfectly clear to the men I date that this is just a fantasy, I am creeped out by the fact that some of the men I've dated have fantasies of raping women. Do you think that's unfair? -Double Standard

Yes I do, DS. Women who open up about rape fantasies—with their partners, in letters to skeezy sex-advice columnists—are always quick to include a qualifier along the lines of "this is just a fantasy," making it clear to all that they are not interested in actually being raped. Well, just as a woman can have rape fantasies without wanting to be the victim of an actual rape, a man can have rapist fantasies without wanting to commit an actual rape. And really, DS, where would ladies with rape-victim fantasies be without men with rape-perp fantasies?"

Originally Posted by Elro

I respect the author's right to write about whatever he wants, even if it's not my thing (I've explained it, by the way), but what shocks me in this story is that Gonad applied himself to make us hate the protagonist...

Which may be writer's trick or technique in its own right, but doesn't compel anyone to read on. I had to force myself to get through even such a short piece. This author should probably be well advised to change that if he wants readers, especially if he undertakes something longer.

In any case, I doubt that this story or any such story has its place on this website (although I wouldn't know, since I'm not an administrator or anything), because, hell, let's face it, we only want to jerk off in this section !